bad idea to have my cpu in a watercooling loop with OC gtx 580 ?

XI_Cryo_IX · 17 Nov 2011 at 05:22

So i was wondering if having my cpu in a water cooling loop with a gtx 580 is a bad idea, because the 580 generates so much heat, could it likely be making the cpu too hot ?

the graphics card at max when overclocked gets to 60C which is great, but the cpu can also get very close to this temp ( 55 - 58C )

Would it be a better idea to just watercool the 580 and then air cool the cpu ?

SeraphX · 17 Nov 2011 at 05:28

What processor is it?
How big is the radiator cooling it?

XI_Cryo_IX · 17 Nov 2011 at 05:30

its a phenom II x4 965 125w
the radiator is a 480size one with 8 120mm fans on it

i have my 580 at a max overclock where its at 1.2V

SeraphX · 17 Nov 2011 at 05:34

well, your pretty much on the limit for the phenom at those temps.

have you thought about maybe having a 120 rad after the cpu and just running the GTX580 though the 480?

XI_Cryo_IX · 17 Nov 2011 at 05:37

so you mean having two loops so there both seperate ? or just adding another radiator into it after the cpu?
Would a 120 one really make that much difference ?

SeraphX · 17 Nov 2011 at 05:40

all in the same loop, it's quite easy, Just literally have the 120 after or before the cpu in the loop, obviously before it hits the gfx too

it'll help get your cpu temps down, strap a couple of akasa apaches on it or one depending on space and watch it shine

XI_Cryo_IX · 17 Nov 2011 at 05:41

ah kk thxs ill have a look around for some 120 radiators then

rjk · 17 Nov 2011 at 09:14

a 480 rad should cool any chip and a 580 easily.

my X5680 at 5GHz churned out a lot of heat, and a 480 in the loop as well, it was fine.

your graphics cards temps are fine, it seems like the overclock on the cpu is generating the heat.

I had a 240 in the loop as well but your cpu will produce a lot less heat than a 5ghz 6 core westmere cpu.

you dont need an additional rad [and that coming from the guy who should be trying to sell you one]

jorzeh · 17 Nov 2011 at 09:17

Having a 120 rad before the CPU will not make a single difference to the temps, A 480x60 rad with push pull can easy handle what you have, The flow rate on a wc system means you won't see a difference no matter the loop order and even on large loops including chips and 2 to 4 graphic cards we're talking half to a single degree differance, So don't waste your time, There is a lot of bad advice going around on OcUk for watercooling at the moment, From people new to the WC game.

jonneymendoza · 17 Nov 2011 at 09:22

jorzeh said:
Having a 120 rad before the CPU will not make a single difference to the temps, A 480x60 rad with push pull can easy handle what you have, The flow rate on a wc system means you won't see a difference no matter the loop order and even on large loops including chips and 2 to 4 graphic cards we're talking half to a single degree differance, So don't waste your time, There is a lot of bad advice going around on OcUk for watercooling at the moment, From people new to the WC game.[

from who and what kind of advice lol?

should i avoid this part of the forum then?

jorzeh · 17 Nov 2011 at 09:31

jonneymendoza said:
from who and what kind of advice lol?

should i avoid this part of the forum then?

Adding a 120 rad into the loop(pointless) and just before the CPU (loop order) again pointless, Rj gives good advice so avoiding the forum is futile, But still wrong advice often given, this guys CPU temps will maybe go up by 1 degree C from adding a 580gtx to the loop, Neither of his CPU or Gpu are hot running compared to other components even when overclocked.

jonneymendoza · 17 Nov 2011 at 09:37

jorzeh said:
Adding a 120 rad into the loop(pointless) and just before the CPU (loop order) again pointless, Rj gives good advice so avoiding the forum is futile, But still wrong advice often given, this guys CPU temps will maybe go up by 1 degree C from adding a 580gtx to the loop, Neither of his CPU or Gpu are hot running compared to other components even when overclocked.

Yea i know its pointless. especially the ordering.

some rules of WC:

1. LEAK test with pc power off
2. Loop order doesnt matter!

rjk · 17 Nov 2011 at 10:45

jorzeh said:
There is a lot of bad advice going around on OcUk for watercooling at the moment, From people new to the WC game.

I disagree, a lot of the advice is spot on, especially for simple matters. but some people are just posting stuff that is flat out wrong, only based on opinion and not cold hard facts.
I am glad someone has pointed it out.

our WC section is good, it is a new section on the forum and the people who frequent the section are truly valuable members of the forum with high levels of expertise. Problems only start when people post flat out false information that they have read on places that have questionable sources.

I am not saying that OcUK will ever be the 'Go-To' place for WC advice, there are UK suppliers with more specialist forums and there is the WC section of Xs which is arguably the place where the WC elite post.

but I am doing what i can here to ensure that all advice posted is factual and concise

jonneymendoza said:
from who and what kind of advice lol?

should i avoid this part of the forum then?

not at all, this part of the forum is superb for beginners as a lot of OcUK members have a vast amount of knowledge, just try to pick your advice carefully and use common sense, if someone suggests something that you are unsure about, then research it for yourself instead of taking it as gospel.
either that or ask for confirmation on an opinion from more members or wait until someone you trust comes into the thread

jorzeh said:
Rj gives good advice so avoiding the forum is futile

Im not saying im 100% correct all the time, but I tend not to post unless i have direct expertise on the matter

there are a load of myths within watercooling that need to be dispelled. all because someone reads some rubbish on the internet and takes it as gospel.

fact is, I have tested and tested and tested every possible configuration of watercooling that there is, doubtless using a much wider variety of hardware and WC gear than anyone else on this forum. I would only suggest something to someone if someone is catastrophically wrong in a thread and feeding a newcomer bad advice.

jonneymendoza · 17 Nov 2011 at 10:50

RJ im going to u for my WC questions hehe. check out my "my first WC thread" and tell me if my temps are ok for what gear i have. thanks.

You can alternatively have a look at the other thread where someone asks who has tested the EX radiators

rjk · 17 Nov 2011 at 10:54

done