Bahrain Grand Prix 2010, Sakhir - Race 1/19

robbiemc said:
...so it appears you're just doing a bit of friendly bating :)
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Hehehe. Nope.

I genuinely believe that Hamilton is something very special and it is unfair to judge a car by using his lap times as a barometer. Button is someone who isnt great, but who isnt bad, so his laptimes are more realistic.

Even Alonso, who I rate as the best in F1 was finding himself out paced in 2007, by Hamilton. Of course, pace is not the be all and end all, but that is the parameter we are discussing here.

Barring extraordinary events, I honestly can't see how Button will get close to Hamilton's points total. I expect Button to do better than Heikki did, but not much better (compared to Hamilton).
 
I think Hamilton potentially did the best job today. The McLaren doesn't look good in single lap runs at all, but he could have got himself into a good position for tomorrow's race.
Otherwise I'm going to have to choose between two teams I really don't like as to which to support. I'm actually finding myself leaning towards Ferrari, which will be changing the habit of a lifetime. Hmm.
 
Duke said:
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:p:D
 
I get the feeling that with the alterations that have been done to the track, to make it stupidly long, and the way a lot of drivers are saying that the new part is awkward to drive, that we are not really seeing a true representation of many peoples performances.

I could be wrong, but I will be more interested in seeing how they fair on other tracks.
 
Ceryndrion said:
...and the way a lot of drivers are saying that the new part is awkward to drive, that we are not really seeing a true representation of many peoples performances.
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The best drivers in the world will go fast on any track (as has already been seen by the qualifying times - Vettel, Alonso, Hamilton are all in the top4). Lesser drivers (i'm not mentioning names, as we all know who they are) will and have already struggled.
 
So are they running Q3 on Fumes or not? :p

As if they are.. tommorows race will be interesting to see how the lighter cars fair with a lot of fuel in. (this will be seen even if they ran on fumes at Q3 I suppose!)
 
TaKeN said:
So are they running Q3 on Fumes or not? :p
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Not entirely. As they did 1 run, came in and changed tyres but didn't need refuelling they must have had at least 6 laps of fuel on board at the start of the session.

It's as close to on fumes as we've seen in Q2 over the past few years.
 
Must say it was quite a boring qualifying , the track is too long so we never got the mad scramble as the clock ticks to 0 plus I don't think there were any spectators there at all.
 
sunama said:
JRS - do you still believe Button will finish above Hamilton?
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I have no idea. It's the first race of the season, there's been a semi-major rule change, the track is different, the teams racing are different....

There are enough variables to give anyone a real headache. Hamilton certainly has the talent, and probably the car, to finish in the top three tomorrow. Button certainly has the talent, and probably the car, to finish in the top three tomorrow. But they aren't alone out there are they?

All things being equal, there are probably going to be four teams fighting for the win tomorrow. RBR, Ferrari, Merc and McLaren. Much has been said about the Red Bull car eating tyres - I'm reserving judgement on that one myself. Much has also been said about the consistency of the Ferrari as far as race stints go - great for me as a Ferrari fan, but given how badly last year went I'm going to hold back on popping Champagne corks for the moment. And the McLaren will probably run better than the one-lap pace suggests, and Mercedes have two very talented drivers along with probably the overall best engine out there right now.

I dunno guys. I reckon Sutil will win with the Force India. Or Rubens with the Williams. There'll be an almightly stack-up in the new section of track on lap 1 that'll eliminate a bunch of the top runners, and Karun Chandok will get the last points-paying position. There, that's my prediction. I look forward to seeing it proven wrong.
 
I dont know how the race tomorrow is going to pan out, will be a pretty close competition between Vettel and the Ferraris and i reckon will come down to how well Vettel can manage the tyres.

The Mclaren looked horrid riding the bumps on the new section of track, so i hope for their sake it works better with more fuel on board.

Race results i go for

1: Alonso
2: Vettel
3: Massa

Schumacher i think will be in the top 6, as for the other positions it is a complete lottery what with Force India showing great pace, along with the racey Williams looking to put on a good show.
 
sunama said:
Hamilton: what can I say. The McLaren is a good car, but I feel it isnt yet as good as the Ferrari or RedBull cars. Of course in Hamilton's hand, the speed deficit, can be overcome. A more realistic indication of the real speed of the McLaren is Button's lap time. JRS - do you still believe Button will finish above Hamilton?
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Rubbish, Button is getting to grips with a team that Hamilton has spent his life at. Hamiltons speed is the pace of the mclaren not buttons. The car was designed around Hamiltons feedback, therefore thats the speed of the car.

Just the same as saying Rosberg is so much better than MS because the Merc is where MS is and in the hands of Rosberg the car is able to outperform the car. Or Alonso is the true pace of the Ferrari and Massa is outperforming the car.

Its rubbish that people will use to talk up a driver. Its just so much harder to bed in with a team when you get so little running.

Red Bull have done well, my worry is vettel has too much pace to not be troubled. I hope one of the teams can get close because hassled Vettel will make mistakes.
 
schumi84 said:
1: Alonso
2: Vettel
3: Massa
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Yep, thats my prediction, too.

My gut feeling is that the McLaren is behind the Ferraris and the RedBulls in terms of raw performance and there is limit to what Hamilton can do, to overcome this.

I'm hoping that as the season progresses the McLaren becomes more competitive and vies for wins.

What I want to see is the top drivers competing for the leading positions - this means Hamilton and Alonso battling for the same tarmac. I don't see this happening tomorrow.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Rubbish, Button is getting to grips with a team that Hamilton has spent his life at. Hamiltons speed is the pace of the mclaren not buttons. The car was designed around Hamiltons feedback, therefore thats the speed of the car.
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Nice of you to admit that Button underperformed today. Get used to it as I believe we are going to see this repeated throughout the year.

dannyjo22 said:
Just the same as saying Rosberg is so much better than MS because the Merc is where MS is and in the hands of Rosberg the car is able to outperform the car.
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MS was never a driver who would drive eyeballs out, in the same way as Mansell or Senna. And after 3 years out and below his prime, it doesnt surprise me that Rosberg has out qualified MS. What MS was good at was going fast during the race. Where most drivers would drop their speed, compared to their qualifying pace, MS would maintain it, well into the race and win the race within the first half of the race. I still believe that MS (even though he is past his prime), will outscore Rosberg over the course of the season and has a good chance of finishing ahead of Rosberg tomorrow.

The problem is that MS has been out for 3 years. Ask any top sportsman to leave their sport for 3 years and then return - they would struggle to achieve their previous levels of performance. What also doesnt help is that MS took a beating in 2005/6 - he never actually retired while he was the F1 top dog. In 2005/6, he was already past his peak.

dannyjo22 said:
Or Alonso is the true pace of the Ferrari and Massa is outperforming the car.
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I actually think that Alonso had a poor qualifying, while Massa had a good qualifying. In any case, the gap is about 0.1s so its not biggy. I fully expect Alonso to finish ahead of Massa tomorrow (barring any extraordinary events).

dannyjo22 said:
Its rubbish that people will use to talk up a driver. Its just so much harder to bed in with a team when you get so little running.
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Button has put in a lot of miles in the McLaren, pre-season.
 
I can't see much point in the first round of qualifying, its the new team (plus someone having a bad day) disposal round.

Happy to see new teams but they're so far out of touch with the established teams that you've got to wonder why they show up.


I'm going for

Massa
Alonso
Vettel

mostly because of the red bull tyre wear issue, which may turn out to not be there.
 
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