Backwards reasoning at its finest - the Supreme Court could split atoms with its logic to get the outcome it wants
What's wrong with what they decided?
Bakers refuse Gay wedding cake - update: Supreme Court rules in favour of Bakers
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What's wrong with what they decided?
Soldato
Nope, not yet. Government has become more and more involved in the raising of our children than ever before - nobody is allowed to lose a running race, getting marks for trying rather than actually getting the right answer, safe spaces, pushed down particular political viewpoints and belief systems.
It has been more rapid over the past 10-15 years but it's been ongoing over my lifetime, for sure.
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I think it's ridiculous that the case has gone this far, but I suppose it's not surprising given that the guy in question is an activist. The cake was going to cost £36.50, legal costs of £500,000 have now been racked up. The sensible thing would have been to take offence to the bakery refusing his order, complained about the decision, but ultimately accepted it and just found another baker who would have made it.
I also think it's perfectly fair for the bakery to refuse to make the cake. They aren't refusing custom from the man in question, they've said that they have served him before and would do so again, they refused to put the slogan he wanted on the cake because it was inconsistent with their religious views. If the bakery is in a particularly Christian neighbourhood they could have stood to lose a lot of custom as a result of appearing to endorse gay marriage.
I also think it's perfectly fair for the bakery to refuse to make the cake. They aren't refusing custom from the man in question, they've said that they have served him before and would do so again, they refused to put the slogan he wanted on the cake because it was inconsistent with their religious views. If the bakery is in a particularly Christian neighbourhood they could have stood to lose a lot of custom as a result of appearing to endorse gay marriage.
And you know this how?Backwards reasoning at its finest - the Supreme Court could split atoms with its logic to get the outcome it wants
Fixed that for you.
You know if it wasn't for a christian group backing them the bakery could have been completely screwed and or/been forced to accept the original ruling because of the cost of fighting the ruling against the state who of course are not going to run into problems with funds.
A few hundred grand isn't usually pocket change for a business.
The cost of justice is pretty dam unjust.
A few hundred grand isn't usually pocket change for a business.
The cost of justice is pretty dam unjust.
Soldato
Don't forget 'clapping'.oh the trauma!
I know, those poor delicate shells!
Kids football these days is just one big PC mess, honestly just winds me up. Local girls and boys mixed club - last game there were two girls crying because they were fairly tackled, parents of said girl screaming blue murder at ref and the talented lad was crying as he was made to feel bad by those there. Kids sports day last year had medals for everyone for taking part, nobody got anything for winning - they all stood on a box to get their 'taking part' medals. These are 7 year old's for goodness sake! Blame lays at the feet of the parents too but gov doesn't help when kids are told nobody should lose or be made to feel different!
Not everyone agrees with everyone else, treat people with respect and move on.
Backwards reasoning at its finest - the Supreme Court could split atoms with its logic to get the outcome it wants
Perfectly logical decision and in agreement with: dowie VS the GD SJWs [2014]
The bakers had risen to the seedy challenge and we’re jammy enough to be provided the dough kneaded to win, they can now get back to creaming their tarts after putting up with this crepe, the claimants we’re also funded some bread but their flaky case wasn’t proven so it crumbled, the details were a bit grainy after all, I won’t say any more as this pack of a dozen puns will go stale
Big flan of this post. Where is the like button?
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And because you couldn't have your cake you decided to see £½ million splurged on legal fees - yeah, right.Gay rights activist Gareth Lee said:
It's pretty laughable "I was just buying a cake", said the man stomping out of the bakery with his Nazi inspired cake design. It's just a cake? What's the problem?
Caporegime
I have to say I changed my mind on this after reading this article by Peter Tatchell. The Supreme Court got it right; while had they refused to make a cake for a gay wedding they would have been bang to rights, the choice to refuse to make a cake with the sentiment on it is not illegal discrimination nor should it be.
Caporegime
He ordered a cake from a cake shop he'd used before. They took the order, and his money, and later changed their mind and refunded him and he went elsewhere to get the cake he wanted. How is that proving a point? It's ordering a cake. He then pursued legal action. Legal action that went all the way to the Supreme Court so it was hardly a clear cut decision.
At no point has he been in the wrong.
Caporegime
Um...The highest court in the country disagrees with you. He is wrong.
Caporegime
Different meaning of "in the wrong". I mean he has, at no point, behaved in a way that can be considered wrong. Having the court decide against you in a case like this does not mean your behaviour has been wrong, especially when all the other courts agreed with him.
(And, as I said above, I agree with the court).