I would vote for any non extreme right party that promises PR.
Same as an EU referendum.
A non red or blue vote is my NOTA
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Ballot Paper - None of the Above (NOTA)
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I would vote for any non extreme right party that promises PR.
Same as an EU referendum.
A non red or blue vote is my NOTA
Caporegime
What would it achieve though? Ok, it gives people the option to say that none of the options are good enough (for them), but it doesn’t actually solve anything?
So say 51% of the voting population put “NOTA”, who forms a government? No-one isn’t a solution.
There isn’t going to magically be a perfect candidate in every constituency for a re-vote just because the indecisive chose “NOTA”.
So say 51% of the voting population put “NOTA”, who forms a government? No-one isn’t a solution.
There isn’t going to magically be a perfect candidate in every constituency for a re-vote just because the indecisive chose “NOTA”.
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It’ll remind the politicians that they basically have no mandate and people actively chose NOT to vote for them. Still doesn’t necessarily achieve anything.
In an ideal world it would require the various parties to "go back to the drawing board" so to speak with regards to their policies / election campaign to come up with something more acceptable to the general public.
Caporegime
It's important to make a point even if that point doesn't change the world.
Mainly - better stats. You get to see who voted nota, instead of them being counted as spoils, or no vote at all, or reluctant votes for someone.
If for whatever reason a result doesn't occur, then it's back to the drawing board. Produce policies people actually want and candidates people can trust.
E.g. in the US election, people don't want Trump (nutter) or Biden (too old), the parties could easily field other candidates to produce a result, e.g. Haley vs Buttigieg.
Soldato
No-one cares if you spoil your ballot, don't vote etc. You're only wasting your own time.
why wouldn't there be a result? It is guaranteed that at least 1 person will vote for a candidate. Unless you make it mandatory to vote and then have a minimum threshold on the required votes to win, but that just sets up a recipe for a crisis where there is no governing party. Elections are very expensive and tile consuming.
Energy is much better spent aiming for PR, because then you will have more choices and more power
Soldato
Soldato
And neither of you see that as a problem?
Why should anyone care that you don't have a suitable candidate to vote for?
Anyone is free to stand for election / form a political party and you are free to vote for whoever you want or to enact your right to not vote at all.
I don't see any fairer system than that. What more do you want?
But the point is not to count it as spoiled, it’s to have NOTA as a printed option on the ballot so you can have accurate results on it.
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Given there's people out there who struggle to simply put an single X in a single box, it's not far from the imagination that some people aren't aware you can legally choose to vote none of the above via not putting anything in any box.
Point being if the option were available, would it be utilised by non voters, those who purposely spoil their ballet form, and those who vote to keep another party potentially out of power?
I don't see none of the above option being an issue, but it does still feel a step sideways. First past the post is the real issue for many voters.
Point being if the option were available, would it be utilised by non voters, those who purposely spoil their ballet form, and those who vote to keep another party potentially out of power?
I don't see none of the above option being an issue, but it does still feel a step sideways. First past the post is the real issue for many voters.
It really doesn't. I have spoilt a few recent ballot papers. My input counts as a contribution even though I voted for none of the carbon copy etonian ****s on offer.
There's a big difference between stating that there isn't a suitable candidate and not even taking part.
Soldato
It is a good idea in theory. But if it wins the vote then what happens?
It could end up with repeated by-elections.
It could end up with repeated by-elections.
Soldato
I can see a party called None of the Above already being setup 
Man of Honour
Yes, but nobody with power will care. NOTA votes will go in the same bin as spoiled ballots and whoever got the most votes would get all the power. Even if that was only 10% of the votes. As long as no other candidate gets more votes, that's all that matters. NOTA is not a candidate, so votes for them are irrelevant.
The meeting with the King could be a little awkward, but probably less awkward than the seating arrangements on the opposition benches.
Kier winks at Rishi and pats thigh. Oh if only.
Signed.