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It's got JF96 in the corners, but I'd say that's not the main point. The reference to milk, and Merseyside as a whole is definitely the bigger point.
Baroness Thatcher has died.
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Maybe the JF96, or the fact it was the anniversary two days ago and the 'whole of merseyside' being inclusive of LFC aswell as EFC.
Also lol@the rest, 37, ****in hell.
Really, you sure you're not just fixated on the issue? Maybe I'm wrong, it's just that I'm from a part of the country that "keeping your pride" stems from much more than remembering a tragic event. Silly me for thinking keeping your pride could be related to prospertity, opportunities, society, family and education.
LOL away, hope it helps you keep the hate going. My point was that banner wavers only make themselves look like fools. If you buy into their argument, fine. But don't make it out to be some sort of victory. It's akin to beeing proud of dirtying an attackers boots with your blood while he stamps on your face.
Did I not just say perhaps she had won before you listed it in a point scoring childish manner?
Why would they use milk as the main point when surely that is a relatively minor thing compared to what else she took and destroyed?
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Childish, no. Just a very good illustration of the point that by any stretch of the imagination, she was the victor. And that any celebrations are very hollow.
Then why is milk so prominent in the banner? Someone obviously thought it was important. Or thought it was a nice soundbite, devoid of political context and fact, but lets not that get int he way of a nice banner. "Milk Gate" has already been detailed many times in this thread.
I doubt people think they are a victor in this 'battle' you are describing, but rather just celebrating her death as she lost the most precious thing in her life, although she has been demented the past few years so perhaps it was already gone.
Pretty sure that is what I just asked as why it would be so prominent/important?
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Isn't the act of celebrating always associated with some kind of achievment, milestone or victory?
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At the risk of repetition.
I was there, in 1972, student demo in London, Maggie Thatcher milk snatcher!!
Way before she was PM..
I have since adopted a more balanced view of life and Maggie.
So don't let your convenience get in the way of a good banner headline.
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About as factually correct as the other implied assertion that she had anything to do with SYP cover ups IMO. So why post it?
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Nope, I just don't like seeing people celebrating the death of another. I found the behaviour of some when Osama Bin laden was killed to be equally distasteful. And I genuinely don't see what there is to celebrate. it won't bring their loved ones back, it won't stop the pain they are feeling. It won't even bring a sense of closure. If anything it cheapens and devalues their cause.
She had been told of their deceitful behaviour and was fully aware of what had gone on, so while she may not have orchestrated it she certainly knew of its occurrence.
Also that wasn't what I asked either
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How is celebrating bin ladens death distasteful?
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Well don't look. Problem solved move on
To be fair, if we all adopted that approach, internet forums would be very dull and empty places. Mind you you might have a point...........
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However terrible a person he was he was still a human being, with a family and loved ones. It may have been right to seek him out and I don't criticise the way the opeation went and that they may have needed to kill him. But that is not the same as celebrating his death. Celebrating his death is no different from the horrible scenes of Palestinians dancing in the street on 9/11 (As they see western culture and people as being complicit in their oppression). I'd like to think as a society we're better than that, though I suspect I'm wrong (EDIT: Nope I am wrong, as the banner illustrated)
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You implied it was truthful by posting it, without comment.
Being told the cops lied and being able to do something about it are two different things. Judges interpret the law and there were erroneous judgements I know, but trying to take that all the way through to the PM is ridiculous. You may as well say the Blair was involved in the cover up as he did nothing in ten years.
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I don't see how it is the same, they are celebrating cowardly attacks on I imagine what was 99% innocent people who had done nothing wrong, bin laden had orchestrated the deaths of 1000's and finally held accountable for what he had done, albeit death was far too kind a way for him to go, I have no qualms if people wanted to celebrate.
Yes, our society is not better than that, I mean that'd be pretty low on the list of things our society could do with sorting out or having proper behaviour towards whatever you may deem that to be
No I didn't? Plenty of images are posted without the belief of things being truthful without comment or is this some form of rule I am not aware of, I mean before you even posted that I had stated I was not under the impression it was not true and well I doubt you were aiming it at anyone else.
Continuing to use the lies when questioned on it and being fully aware they are lies is taking part for me, something could have been done.
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To be honest - as society we should aim to be above celebrating the death of any individual (regardless as to what they may have done).
That's not saying we can't recognise the world is a better/worse place without them - but in the case of Thatcher she had no power over the recent years & nothing was gained by her demise.
That's not saying we can't recognise the world is a better/worse place without them - but in the case of Thatcher she had no power over the recent years & nothing was gained by her demise.
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