Bathroom ceiling caved in

HungryHippos said:
You realise that you posted this in the one place where that isn't true?

This is OCUK, you have neighbours, they probably have letterboxes. Let the letterboxing commence!
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It's OK for the build logs on here where folk have multiple bathrooms and en-suites so they can take time refurbishing one. Plus I don't feel comfortable ******** at work every day.
 
Going to get some one in next week to have a look, basically want all ceiling down and renewed and all walls pulled back and re-plastered.
 
Really need to get trades in to re plaster whole room out and fit new suite but I'm embarrassed to show any one in. :(
 
Roof is sorted and still very sound with no leakage at all since and all wood has dried out. Just want all the walls plastered and the suite renewed and new tiles all round.
 
The rip out has begun...

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Think I'm being ripped off by the bathroom fitting outfit though. I'm having a walk in shower, washbasin with cupboard underneath & a toilet and the walls and ceiling cladded. But I think they seem to think that they are just going to clad over the rest of the **** that's still on the wall (painting over the cracks so to speak). I'm having a new floor down too, LVT I think it is but they haven't even ripped the old tiled floor up and no way am I having them lay it on top of that because it's not even level. (Concrete floor under the tiles I assume is level though.)

They are going to be cladding the little passage area that is between the bathroom and the kitchen too but they haven't even took the plaster off the walls in there, guy this morning said he'll prob just leave it. On my closer inspection it's knackered/damp and I don't want it just left hidden behind cladding, same goes for the ceiling in there too.

It just seems weird that they have started the rip out and then cleared it all out if they haven't finished ripping it out so that's what leads me to believe they are just going to hide the rest and do a bodge job. I'm not sure how long he was there today ripping out but he arrived at 7.30 before I left for work and I think he had cleared off by lunch time. He's taken all the waste away with him already, another sign that the rip out is complete in there eyes. I'll already be away to work before he/they arrive tomorrow morning.

The guy there today doing the rip out isn't the guy who initially came to do the survey. I certainly do seem to have a knack for picking dodgy tradesmen, what with the back yard concrete job last year.
 
Well I'm having my doubts and losing confidence in them. They have left the old floor tiles down and have put in the shower tray already. The old wall tiles that were under the current wall tiles are going to be left by the looks of it. Really need to have a chat with them.

Lot of supplies have been delivered and the new LVT flooring has a built in underlay so it looks like they just go down and click into place on top of the old floor tiles, no boarding or screed etc.

Job is costing £6495 and I've already paid a £2500 deposit before work started. Oh and they have used speed fit pipes under the shower tray for the hot & cold water.
 
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These are the new LVT tiles that are going down:

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You can see in this photo the shower tray over the old floor tiles and what looks like plan plasterboard up the shower:

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Buffman said:
Are they putting studwork onto the back wall for the tiles or are they literally applying straight new tiles straight to the old tiles? If they are tiling onto the existing tiles I'd sack them immediately or tell them you're not paying them if thats what they're doing.

For plasterboard - I asked a similar question in this thread, and using plasterboard is OK if they are going to tank it - however if they're doing it from scratch and a professional install it also seems a bit of a bodge job. They're purely trying to save money on materials (which isn't a significant saving - maybe £100 to £200 more to use a water resistant tanking board) at the risk of your future problem.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...a-dot-and-dabbed-wall.18938809/#post-35146553

The floor I'm more indifferent on however the correct thing to do would be to remove the tiles (you're adding extra level to the flooring) - are the current floor tiles level?

I wouldnt expect to pay anything upfront especially £2.5k! unless they've sourced the materials?

Source - not a tradesman just done a fair bit of DIY.
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They are not putting new tiles on they are putting cladding on but don't know how they fix it whether they put new studwork up or if the cladding literally sticks straight onto the old tiles/walls.

I think once the new flooring goes down (on top of the old flooring) I think it will still be level with the kitchen, as the the little passageway between bathroom and kitchen doesn't have the old tile flooring down, just concrete and it is lower than the old bathroom tiles and the concreted kitchen floor.

Yeah deposit seems steep but they are supplying everything. What I did have a concern with was the guy who turned up yesterday morning had a SumUp card machine and wanted me to pay another £2500 but I brushed it off with an excuse about not having my credit cards with me. However after checking the initial quote form the terms did state another payment before work starts. Which I still haven't paid and haven't been re-asked to.
 
Buffman said:
Theres no way it costs that much in materials so I would be extremely hesitant to pay more than you currently have until its finished to your satisfaction.

Can you get a picture of the tiled back wall relative to the tray without their stuff in the way? If its right up against it they wont have any room to stud it out/offset it (nor should they - its an inefficient use of space)

It really sounds like you should sack them off the job to be honest..
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It does look like the cladding goes straight onto the wall and old tiles but if that is fine then I'll take it. Just noticed that the shower drain is going to be at the opposite end of the actual shower, should it not be at the same end?

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thenewoc said:
We did similar in our kitchen and down stairs toilet with LVT Karndean over the previous ceramic tiles because it would be a nightmare to chisel the old up and would also damage the concrete no doubt underneath. Ours was screeded but Karndean is quite a thin tile and without screed it would probably have shown grout lines pushing through over time. It did make the heights odd with the hallway but we were able to rectify that at a later stage when the hallway was laid with laminate as we used a thick enough underlay to bring all the levels back to being the same.

I think you'll be alright with them large LVT tiles with the rubber back as long as none of the old tiles are obviously very uneven.

I think I'd be happier if it were me that the rear wall also had new plasterboard screwed threw the top of the old tiles. I guess if it's large panels that are being stuck over the top that should be ok if the old tiles seem sound.
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The old tiles on the back wall seem very solid.
 
thenewoc said:
The side with the drain will most likely have the fixed part of the shower screen whilst the shower head side would have the shower door. This way you're less likely to stand on the drain cover and split it, also the shower head water passes the door opening as it projects into the fixed closed in end of the enclosure. You also wouldn't have the door on the drain side in your case as your toilet looks as though it's going on that side.
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Where the drain is is where you are going to be entering the shower on mine, the shower head is at the opposite end.
 
Well it's been day 4 today and tomorrow Friday is supposed to be the 5th and final day. But I've found some serious snags I'm not happy about...

Also I got a phone call from the fitter today while I was at work, wanting to know what time I leave for work tomorrow morning so he can come early to get the rest of the payment! No way am I paying them before I know for sure I'm satisfied and these snags have been rectified. The fitter or the owner (who hasn't been here during the fit) will have to come back on Saturday for payment.

I've also just found a 1 star Google review from someone posted last week. They say the company pretended they had not been a customer of theirs and wouldn't come out to fix some faults until the customer reclaimed some money back from their credit card, and are still waiting to hear back from the owner 6 months later regarding their uneven floor and cracked ceiling.

Screw holes in the panels which aren't hidden by the silver trim - in 3 places along this edge:

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Puncture hole in the flooring along the door thresh:

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Uneven cuts along the panel edges - this is the worse one but there are others:

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The towel rad pipes aren't in line (but I think these can be adjusted as it's on flexpipe inside the box):

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booyaka said:
I hate to sound negative - but even as a fairly competent DIY person I guarantee I would have done a better job than that....

Those panel corner/edges should have corner trim fitted before they go on the wall.... please tell me they aren't just going to put filler/sealant in there.....

The alarm bells were ringing from the start for me - NOT taking all the tiles off and stripping back to see the wall etc was just lazy/time saving....

Pay them nothing - if they won't play ball - get someone else
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They have cut corners everywhere, not prepping properly, using the cheapest materials and trying to get paid before it's finished so they can ride off into the sunset. Just quick cash grab.
 
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