Battlefield 4 Thread ~ Server details in opening post ~

Fr0dders · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:11

Nexus18 said:
The main reason for the beta is server testing.

If the final game doesn't run/work well, the majority of people aren't going to bother with the game, therefore it will only affect DICE/EA in the long run, not just their profit but also their image and future game sales.

Exactly

Its very likely that the game we will all be playing on launch day doesn't even exist yet. Development is spread across hundreds of people, all working in different teams on their own branch of code. Only at major milestones does the code branches all get brought together to form an actual game.

This is undoubtedly the E3 build judging by the level and weapons, but with a few bits and pieces thrown in from newer branches to stablize it a bit better.

The code that goes out to release, the RTM release, will have been brought together by now. But the only place that release will exist will likely be with the distributors.

If its anything like BF3, they will be working on the code base even now, for a release day patch and still working on the game past the RTM release.

Nexus18 said:
standard supposedly comes with that DLC pack anyway.......

Its the same as BF3, all the pre orders come with the first DLC free.

Nexus18 · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:12

So before this starts....

What are the best weapons to use for each class? Best unlocks for weapons?

Fr0dders · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:13

no point discussing it until release, as you know how often demize likes to tinker with weapon balance.

JamesM · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:14

The Carbines are pretty smart, good rate of fire and punch. Doesn't seem to be that many scopes around as it's mostly iron sights and red dots.

dmferrett · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:16

'Wes said:
simplycdkeys, £55 for standard and premium.

Thats a great price for 20-25 maps and all the other "extra's" I suppose.

The game has lots of potential and I'm sure it gonna be a huge success.

But will it capativate me enough to put the 600 hr+ that I sank into bf3........

Nexus18 · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:20

Fr0dders said:
no point discussing it until release, as you know how often demize likes to tinker with weapon balance.

Very true and no doubt the weapons will be completely different come release but we have 10-11 days of this to play

I doubt that we will get any updates/patches for this.

JamesM said:
The Carbines are pretty smart, good rate of fire and punch. Doesn't seem to be that many scopes around as it's mostly iron sights and red dots.

Yeah the Ak 5C looks a beast!

dmferrett · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:21

Nexus18 said:
So before this starts....

What are the best weapons to use for each class? Best unlocks for weapons?

You only get 3 to start with.

I go support class as it take half a clip to drop someone!!! The hit damage is BS!!!

If your AT the carbine is very fast and excellant CQ.

The sniper gets c4 (Stupid as they just on top of buidlings instead of blowing siit up). I've not played sniper goes against my core combat mellee principles.

If you got an old system your screwed!!! lol

Born_2_Kill_83 · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:22

Does any-one know if Windows 8.1 will be a free download patch for windows 8 users?
Wondering whether to by 8 now or wait till 8.1 release

Muzy · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:25

flopper said:
did see someone had a <50fps difference on his rig between those OS.
flows well with my win 8 though.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040250214&postcount=335

example here with cpu difference
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040246877&postcount=288

and why windows 8?
http://www.bf4blog.com/battlefield-4-on-windows-8-will-have-better-cpu-optimization/

they can't allow this..... this will hurt the sale...... Final release should give true figures.

starmanwarz · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:25

https://twitter.com/battlelog/status/386073724564168704

zMarkon · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:26

starmanwarz said:
https://twitter.com/battlelog/status/386073724564168704

Was just about to ask when it's available, cheers

Helios1234 · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:27

I had a few games yesterday and I'm amazed how well everything was working. I had an issue initially with the game stuck on the loading screen but after restarting, the game was smooth, looked pretty good and there was no lag whatsoever! Very impressed.

Born_2_Kill_83 said:
Does any-one know if Windows 8.1 will be a free download patch for windows 8 users?
Wondering whether to by 8 now or wait till 8.1 release

8.1 is the equivalent of a service pack so it's free if you have Win 8 installed already.

~>Dg<~ · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:27

if you own w8 and install the 8.1 now its free and will just continue i think but you must have 8.1 installed before the update.

i have 8 pro and tbh i use win7

. no difference in fps just marketing bs from microshaft who gave EA millions just like AMD to sell there product. seems to be working though

Nexus18 · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:31

dmferrett said:
You only get 3 to start with.

I go support class as it take half a clip to drop someone!!! The hit damage is BS!!!

If your AT the carbine is very fast and excellant CQ.

The sniper gets c4 (Stupid as they just on top of buidlings instead of blowing siit up). I've not played sniper goes against my core combat mellee principles.

If you got an old system your screwed!!! lol

In videos the damage system looks a lot higher, at least for medium to long range :confused:

Pistols seem to be a lot more beefy too :cool:

In BF 3, anything apart from the rex and magnum were pretty crap....

I probably won't bother with sniper too much in the beta, however, think it is great that they have c4 and motion balls again, means you can be much more aggressive and hold your own against tanks and other players (not to mention you can actually snipe since you don't have the stupid suppression system!

)

System isn't that great any more (handles bf 3 fine on high settings though [play with mostly low settings anyway]) but no doubt it will still play crap

i5 750 oc to 3.6GHz (IIRC goes up to 3.8GHz since turbo is enabled)
8GB RAM
MSI OC 7850 2GB with latest stable drivers
1080P res.
windows 7 64 bit
will be installed on crucial m4 SSD

Am sure come release, it will be fine though.....

JamesM · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:32

dmferrett said:
You only get 3 to start with.

I go support class as it take half a clip to drop someone!!! The hit damage is BS!!!

If your AT the carbine is very fast and excellant CQ.

The sniper gets c4 (Stupid as they just on top of buidlings instead of blowing siit up). I've not played sniper goes against my core combat mellee principles.

If you got an old system your screwed!!! lol

I hope they gave the sniper C4 in the principle that they wouldn't feel the need to camp on the rooftops etc but alas it doesn't appear to have worked.

That said, spawning on your squad on a rooftop and jumping onto the top of a tank with C4 is pretty satisfying. Map reminds me of Seine Crossing but with the added benefit of being able to blow up tanks in more ways.

shuffle · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:41

Nexus18 said:
In videos the damage system looks a lot higher, at least for medium to long range Pistols seem to be a lot more beefy too In BF 3, anything apart from the rex and magnum were pretty crap....

I probably won't bother with sniper too much in the beta, however, think it is great that they have c4 and motion balls again, means you can be much more aggressive and hold your own against tanks and other players (not to mention you can actually snipe since you don't have the stupid suppression system! )

System isn't that great any more (handles bf 3 fine on high settings though [play with mostly low settings anyway]) but no doubt it will still play crap

i5 750 oc to 3.6GHz (IIRC goes up to 3.8GHz since turbo is enabled)
8GB RAM
MSI OC 7850 2GB with latest stable drivers
1080P res.
windows 7 64 bit
will be installed on crucial m4 SSD

Am sure come release, it will be fine though.....

sounds good, like the idea of the motion sensors being back from BC2

Also the guns in B3 felt so tinny and feeble, so the beefy guns are welcome. I really hope this is going to be more of return to the feel of BC2 gameplay

dakaiez · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:42

JamesM said:
I hope they gave the sniper C4 in the principle that they wouldn't feel the need to camp on the rooftops etc but alas it doesn't appear to have worked.

That said, spawning on your squad on a rooftop and jumping onto the top of a tank with C4 is pretty satisfying. Map reminds me of Seine Crossing but with the added benefit of being able to blow up tanks in more ways.

I run around as Recon with a carbine destroying stuff. I c4 tanks, spot and lock onto vehicles and heli's and basically cap points playing very offensively. Best fun i've had in Battlefield series since BF2 and BC2.

Nexus18 said:
So before this starts....

What are the best weapons to use for each class? Best unlocks for weapons?

ACW-R for me without a doubt. I can't snipe for crap, used to be good in BF3 and could kill anything. In this i couldn't hit bugger all with the rifle, that being said i am playing the same as i would in BF3 so it's messing me up.

I got annoyed and leveled Engineer where i unlocked AKU-12 which i then found was usable across all classes and beasted it up with my Recon. I then unlocked the ACW-R and with the attachments currently available i complete and utterly destroy most people in one on ones. It shoots super quickly, while doing a tonne of damage.

dmferrett · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:44

Mate seriously, Snipers parachute in from the choppers and sit there doing just sniping no direct antitank activity from observation thus far!!! They are not team players and its silly when the 8+ snipers on roofs have c4 imo.

Give me the C4 in support class (It is a later unlock at moment) and give the campers the spawn beacon and motion sensor....So they can sit there and sit and sit there!!!

'Wes · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:46

All i've done with sniper is blow up vehicles, attack flags and also troll.

Nexus18 · 4 Oct 2013 at 11:49

JamesM said:
I hope they gave the sniper C4 in the principle that they wouldn't feel the need to camp on the rooftops etc but alas it doesn't appear to have worked.

That said, spawning on your squad on a rooftop and jumping onto the top of a tank with C4 is pretty satisfying. Map reminds me of Seine Crossing but with the added benefit of being able to blow up tanks in more ways.

It was never going to get the camper snipers who sit way back to play more aggressively, those are the ones that only care about their "pro" k/d ratio but now that they have the option of c4 + motion balls it means that recons "can" be more useful when they "want" to be, in bf 3 you didn't have this choice, the only time a reacon came in useful was when they placed the beacon in good places i.e. rush, somewhere in the defenders place) and used the MAV, TUGS and SOLFAM (however, the reward for spotting, marking vehicles out etc. was crap and tbh pretty boring so no one really bothered with it

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Recons shouldn't have got claymores though! And they shouldn't get the spawn beacons either (I think they are still in BF4?)

shuffle said:
sounds good, like the idea of the motion sensors being back from BC2
Also the guns in B3 felt so tinny and feeble, so the beefy guns are welcome. I really hope this is going to be more of return to the feel of BC2 gameplay

Supposedly it feels more like MOH with vehicles than bc 2 and BF 3

From what I have seen though, it looks to be a mix of everything......

dakaiez said:
ACW-R for me without a doubt. I can't snipe for crap, used to be good in BF3 and could kill anything. In this i couldn't hit bugger all with the rifle, that being said i am playing the same as i would in BF3 so it's messing me up.

I got annoyed and leveled Engineer where i unlocked AKU-12 which i then found was usable across all classes and beasted it up with my Recon. I then unlocked the ACW-R and with the attachments currently available i complete and utterly destroy most people in one on ones. It shoots super quickly, while doing a tonne of damage.

Will probably level up to get that then!

Love the ACWR in BF 3, such a beast!

Supposedly there is no bullet travel for this beta so I don't think you need to take into where someone is running, how fast they are going etc. Just aim a bit higher and fire