BBC News HD no longer available on Freeview from 30th June 2022
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Wahh wahhh wahhh
Iff the government digital broadband across the UK is up to providing sufficient bandwidth before switch off
... 5 Openreach vans and probably 15personnel this morning doing an assessment for fibre out to a nearby cambridge village.
come the olympics 100m final , or musk landing on Mars (e: storming of downing street ?) will IP multi-cast provide everyone with a simultaneous stream,
BT service keeps some IP bandwith explicitly for their freeview duplication service I thought.
... 5 Openreach vans and probably 15personnel this morning doing an assessment for fibre out to a nearby cambridge village.
come the olympics 100m final , or musk landing on Mars (e: storming of downing street ?) will IP multi-cast provide everyone with a simultaneous stream,
BT service keeps some IP bandwith explicitly for their freeview duplication service I thought.
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Not everyone has the internet or can get a decent speed.
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This is basically the challenge: broadcast TV signal reaches most but not all of the population. For some it's a reduced service i.e. fewer channels, and for some it's flaky, and for some they're out of range.
Same for broadband except it's something like 10+% of households, and there's doesn't seem much plan to remedy this.
IMO broadband should be as available and reliable as mains electricity and running water at this stage. It's a basic right of access here.
On the bandwidth topic relating to internet TV - there's something like 5-7 multiplexes running, each carrying let's say ballpark 20Mbps of content. That's easily 100Mbps of information in the airwaves right now bouncing off your walls and through your skin. Arguably that bandwidth would need to reach every home over IP to match efficiency. If everyone were to individually stream content (rather than taking it from a broadcast or multicast) the internet traffic wouldn't cope. So we do need a properly engineered IP TV infrastructure to make this work.
Same for broadband except it's something like 10+% of households, and there's doesn't seem much plan to remedy this.
IMO broadband should be as available and reliable as mains electricity and running water at this stage. It's a basic right of access here.
On the bandwidth topic relating to internet TV - there's something like 5-7 multiplexes running, each carrying let's say ballpark 20Mbps of content. That's easily 100Mbps of information in the airwaves right now bouncing off your walls and through your skin. Arguably that bandwidth would need to reach every home over IP to match efficiency. If everyone were to individually stream content (rather than taking it from a broadcast or multicast) the internet traffic wouldn't cope. So we do need a properly engineered IP TV infrastructure to make this work.
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Virgin Media have only bothered to cable two thirds of my street. Entering postcode on website shows up every property bar the block of flats I am in, the three coach house flats and four houses down a path.
BBC News HD no longer available on Freeview from 30th June 2022
Channel Changes and closures on Freeview on 29th & 30th June
On 29th & 30th June 2022 there are changes being made to the way some channels are currently broadcast.www.freeview.co.uk
Options:
- watch the SD channel (lol no)
- use iPlayer
- stop watching BBC News
I'm very surprised that a main channel would just die off like this. Gonna pee off a lot of people.
BBC news app looks like it'll require you to register and login by the end of June.
I can see them losing a lot of viewers/readers.
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Only thng that's really ******* me off is Quest HD being removed, means I can't watch the footy highlights because the SD Quest is pretty much a pixellated mess..
You tried DAB radio? I hear it's the future, nothing else even comes close.
What’s crazy is we should have everything on HD and that be the base line, whilst looking forward to 4K. But instead we’re dropping things back down to SD 
. Watched Euro 2020 in 4K on iPlayer and it was great.
Winds me up as well that Sky/Nowtv charge extra for HD, HD really should be the basic thing now and SD not existing, it should be an extra to have 4K.
. Watched Euro 2020 in 4K on iPlayer and it was great.Winds me up as well that Sky/Nowtv charge extra for HD, HD really should be the basic thing now and SD not existing, it should be an extra to have 4K.
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I agree dasyad, HD should not be charges extra as you can't get SD TVs anymore
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Oh God, don't even joke about invoking that nutjob.
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Heh still on Freesat...
Or just shut the things down must be costing a fortune all those transmitters all over the country when a single satellite gets the job done my father can even pick up the service in Spain albeit with a larger dish
They don't like doing flats for some reason presumably to do with shared ownership or something I have a street cabinet I can see out of the window its not 10 feet in front of here that they put in but do I get service? Nuh-uh.
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I know a few people who are more bothered about the loss of Freesport channel.
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They didn’t cable my friend’s flats which are in blocks of four with their own external entrances. Four front doors together. Middle two are the first floor flats.
When are they going to upgrade iPlayer though, the web version is so dated now max 720p still in 2022. Plus that's only if you watch BBC England/Scotland, if you go regional its 5xxp. For a company with billions in tax revenue they can do better then that.
Problem with cityfibre as well. But even worse I think, cityfibre automatically put every address on their checker that has a flat in the name as requiring a wayleave agreement, even though their website and managers have said to me it should only be applying to HMO's. Whilst multi occupancy houses without a flat in the name are treated as if they owned. On broadband infrastructure we are heading towards a clear social divide and its as if everyone is blind into whats happening, as there is also the issue that FTTP contracts at 12 months or less are as rare as a needle in a haystack.
the answer in his case is .. The europe dab implementation with high bitrate/good encode can be good ..
maybe a similar philosophy applies here - is the draconian uk 5g sell off and frequency allocation, contrary with sunlit uplands european plans ... so, another brexit, are you not gonna go my way
seems eu is exploring co-existance
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/202...tt-could-share-uhf-band-and-broadcast-towers/
... besides could existing receive, via 5G and IP based freeview