BBC possibly to drop F1 coverage...

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AcidHell2 said:
which i the only thing which counts. I'm wouldn't be paying for anything else. so its 10 races i would be paying for, hence divided by 10. even if bbc didn't cover it. That's still over £30 a race. would need like a 50 race season before it become reasonable.

How many games in a football season, just shown on Sky? I bet its a lot more than 10 or 20.
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I know, your calcs are fine, but there seems to be a bit of confusion with whether Sky are actually showing all 20 races amongst some people.

As for football, there are likely a lot of games per season but most people will only be interested in a few teams at most, which will massively limit the range of interest. I doubt many people are sat watching live games between teams they don't care about.
 
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The deal follows speculation that the BBC would drop Formula One as it seeks to make cost savings of 20% of its budget following last year's flat licence fee settlement.
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In view of the number of people on these forums who bitch about the iniquity of being FORCED to pay the licence fee, I really don't see how anyone can complain.

The Tories are simply doing what Murdoch wants - to shut down the BBC - write to your MP if you aren't happy about it.
 
deuse said:
If a person does not have sky the maths are right for 10 races ;)
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It's just some bogus rubbish made up to sensationalise things..

It's £62 a month for SKY World HD, that's everything Sky offers, all movies, all 5 sky sports channels, etc, etc, etc..

You can get Basic TV (entertainment package) + Sky Sports for £31 a month if you wanted, or £20 a month on topuptv and I haven't even checked VM/BT prices..
 
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Kenai said:
I know, your calcs are fine, but there seems to be a bit of confusion with whether Sky are actually showing all 20 races amongst some people.
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They are showing all 20, but I can get 10 races for free, so I'm not paying for those 10. Therefore it's 60 a race.
 
Demon said:
It's just some bogus rubbish made up to sensationalise things..
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how it made up?

Actually yep sky world is £52. The rest is as stated. Although sky world still adds 10.25 on for hd, although it says it's included.
So it doesn't really change anything you can pay an extra few pounds a year for all. Does change the cost though.
 
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From a quick Google, it seems Sky can show around 96 Premier League games, and 70 from the rest of the league. So your looking at around 170 games per season.
 
nydryl said:
Why is it that F1 fans seem to believe their sport deserves to be exculsively broadcast by the BBC? Currently only F1 enjoys that luxury.

I enjoy watching some of the races on the BBC, and would love to see more sport in general on free-to-air channels, but F1 doesn't deserve special treatement.
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Well...it's nothing particularly new. Football/cricket etc all got snapped up by them yes, but F1 has managed to survive all these years and I guess we fell into the mindset that it was safe. Money talks. It's just sad. Nobody is going to be happy about it. The main thing is that there was meant to be a concorde agreement where F1 was supposedly safe from this treatment since it should be kept as a free-to-air service only.
 
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Sky will ruin the coverage, apart from anything else.
Then I shall have to be paying for the damn thing to get a load of crap I do not actually want to watch, just to watch F1 every couple of weeks?!

Stinks to me. I would be suprised if did not affect sponsorship too :(
 
nydryl said:
Why is it that F1 fans seem to believe their sport deserves to be exculsively broadcast by the BBC? Currently only F1 enjoys that luxury.

I enjoy watching some of the races on the BBC, and would love to see more sport in general on free-to-air channels, but F1 doesn't deserve special treatement. The £X per race arugment holds no water either. You're not paying to watch an indiviual race, you're paying for a broad range of sports and programmes. It's your perogative to choose to only watch F1.
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Already a Sky customer and not an F1 fan, I assume....
 
nydryl said:
Why is it that F1 fans seem to believe their sport deserves to be exculsively broadcast by the BBC? Currently only F1 enjoys that luxury.
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Because it contributes more to the British economy than any other sport. The British motorsport industry is world renowned and unrivalled. Without a platform like F1 to demonstrate its talents, the industry will suffer greatly.

Football... other than keeping stadium builders, burger vans and the beer brewing industry afloat... does **** all. From what I can see.
 
nydryl said:
Why is it that F1 fans seem to believe their sport deserves to be exculsively broadcast by the BBC? Currently only F1 enjoys that luxury.

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They don't,they just don't want to spend £50+ per race.

There's also the way f1 works, the promises. And that England is home of f1.
 
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AcidHell2 said:
They don't,they just don't want to spend £50+ per race.
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Yup, in the same way that the majority of football fans don't subscribe to Sky to watch the games. They just wait for the result. Or if it is subsequently known to have been a "good game", they torrent/usenet it.
 
The fact is that fans are being FORCED to buy into a Sky Subscription. People that don't already have sky, I.E. are not interested in any on the crud they show now will get NO value in having the ability to watch it now..

So the only thing they will be interested in is the F1 - it's not hard to understand...

I for one, even though I'm a big fan of F1, will not be subscribing. I'll use my Sky internet connection to either watch it online or wait for torrents. Baring that I've got a few friend that have the full Sky TV package so I'll invite myself round :)

TBH I may even cancel my TV License Direct Debit as F1 is the only thing I watch on BBC these days.
 
NathanE said:
Yup, in the same way that the majority of football fans don't subscribe to Sky to watch the games. They just wait for the result. Or if it is subsequently known to be a "good game", they torrent/usenet it.
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They can at least goto the pub though and watch it.

Why didn't the government protect f1 under EU regulations in 2009, when it was discussed.
 
The move the Sky probably does generate more money than remaining free to air (the BBC simply don't have that kind of budget).

The question is is the Sky money 'needed'. If the teams had been serious about cutting their cost over the last five years they could now be in a position to live of the low free to air fees.

It could be argued that the reluctance of the teams to significantly cut their budgets has contributed to the move to Sky. Personally I'd prefer to actually watch a lower cost F1, than not watch a high cost F1.
 
I have enjoyed having F1 on BBC, no crappy adverts, good commentary, itv ruined it with adverts cutting away at crucial points, so if going sky is the only way to see the races the only way I will do it is if they confirm that during the race they will not cut into the race to show me I need to buy some new tyres or something.
 
AcidHell2 said:
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how it made up?

Actually yep sky world is £52. The rest is as stated. Although sky world still adds 10.25 on for hd, although it says it's included.
So it doesn't really change anything you can pay an extra few pounds a year for all. Does change the cost though.
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What is wrong with the £31.75 a month for the Entertainment + Skysports package, and that includes IIRC the SKY+, so you get a top notch PVR, sky anytime, remote record and a shedload of normal TV channels..

In fact, if you are in a Sky LLU area, that can also include unlimited evening/weekend calls.. save a bit of money on those too..
 
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