BBC standing up to scientology

Richdog said:

Think what he means is, luckily the crew making the documentry isn't as civilised / self-disciplined as the BBC crew - or they would have lunched themself at that scientologist fellow...
 
Dr Jones said:
Think what he means is, luckily the crew making the documentry isn't as civilised / self-disciplined as the BBC crew - or they would have lunched themself at that scientologist fellow...

Well in that case i'd say the problem would be that an unknown amateur film crew would have got absolutely caned by the scinos... the fame and reputation of the BBC is likely the only reason the scinos were so "restrained". An amateur crew without that protection would have been in serious **** methinks...
 
DR Jones said:
Think what he means is, luckily the crew making the documentry isn't as civilised / self-disciplined as the BBC crew - or they would have lunched themself at that scientologist fellow...

Thats what i meant.

Richdog said:
Well in that case i'd say the problem would be that an unknown amateur film crew would have got absolutely caned by the scinos... the fame and reputation of the BBC is likely the only reason the scinos were so "restrained". An amateur crew without that protection would have been in serious **** methinks...

I disagree. The scinos are just up for privoking people and recording their reactions to post on youtube to show they are the victims. The BBC guy, no disrespect, was an older guy who works for a massive corporation who would not want to loose his job. I think if an younger amatuer crew had be harrassed and provoked like that they would have retaliated. I know i certainly would have.
 
LukeT said:
I disagree. The scinos are just up for privoking people and recording their reactions to post on youtube to show they are the victims. The BBC guy, no disrespect, was an older guy who works for a massive corporation who would not want to loose his job

If you think the scinos wouldn't harass a group of no-names 10x more aggressively than they did the BBC guy then you would be a tad naieve in my eyes. What would be stopping them as the amateur film creq would have no weight behind them? Scinos will do what they can get away with, and if it was a no-name crew then they could get away with a hell of a lot more.

I think if an younger amatuer crew had be harrassed and provoked like that they would have retaliated. I know i certainly would have.

Not everyones like you mate... there's a good chance a group of amateur film-makers aren't aggressive wannabe tough-guys... in fact I guess most people aren't. A lot of people would be scared and intimidated by the constant harrassment, enough to likely pack up and leave.
 
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Richdog said:
If you think the scinos wouldn't harass a group of no-names 10x more aggressively than they did the BBC guy then you would be a tad naieve in my eyes. What would be stopping them as the amateur film creq would have no weight behind them? Scinos will do what they can get away with, and if it was a no-name crew then they could get away with a hell of a lot more.


Not everyones like you mate... there's a good chance a group of amateur film-makers aren't aggressive wannabe tough-guys... in fact I guess most people aren't.

Fair enough i get where your coming from they would be able to get away with more. The press probably wouln't even report it.

Im not a wannabe tough guy, im soft as S*** but being followed and harrased like that would really grind on me and with someone being like that with me i think i would just snap. Even even when the BBC guy was talking he was just interupted and the scinos guy was stepping right into his face.
 
Another thing that doesn't ring straght with their 'beliefs' is their disbelief in psychology. Surely the pschological torment that Tommy bloke imposed upon our BBC reporter was contradictory to their, ahem, 'religious' beliefs in some aspects at least.

And the stalking/listening/following. If all that's not manipulating somebody using psychology as a weapon, then I don't know what is.

Sinister indeed.
 
LukeT said:
Fair enough i get where your coming from they would be able to get away with more. The press probably wouln't even report it.

Im not a wannabe tough guy, im soft as S*** but being followed and harrased like that would really grind on me and with someone being like that with me i think i would just snap. Even even when the BBC guy was talking he was just interupted and the scinos guy was stepping right into his face.

that's what he was trying to do though. he was trying to get the BBC bloke to punch him! that's the easiest way to be able to publicly, and justifiably, discredit the report. He would've been branded as a thug who was trying to bully and intimidate him and the report was invalidated.

sadly, I have to agree with Tommy Davis on one part - this was NOT an objective report. It was, most definitely, biased against Scientology. This was the other way to be able to discredit the report. The BBC reporting on Tommy following them around, and the way he portrayed the celebrities was done very poorly. They made themselves seem like they'd painted the celebs into a corner. A completely unbiased, objective report would've not started calling Scientology a cult, and actually trying to get something out of Tommy from the outset. It looked like he just set out to purposefully wind him up! If I believed everything Scientology told me, and some guy started calling my religion a cult, I think I'd be annoyed as well.

Anyway, I'm rambling :o I'm, quite frankly, frightened by the behavior of the Scientologists, and I think they're pretty dangerous. If you're paranoid, potentially even on a global scale!!
 
It does seem a typical response from a Scientolist is to talk back over the other person, and continuing to do so until they back down.

Tom Cruise has done it, so was the video earlier, and another I watched a few months ago.
 
Maybe Spie should delete this thread before they start ransacking OcUK HQ, Spamming up the servers and using the new Nigerian satellite to nick all the gear! :p
 
Biohazard said:
Maybe Spie should delete this thread before they start ransacking OcUK HQ, Spamming up the servers and using the new Nigerian satellite to nick all the gear! :p

lol.

I was just thinking of that - I mean, wouldn't them people visit here and take notes on members here and trace them - so in case anyone of us decides to rise up against them, they can bring our forum trolling skills as a negative to discredit us e.t.c.
 
johnnyfive said:
I thought the bbc report was biased and poorly done. Get Louis Theroux do a documentary on them and grind them down.

Not it wasnt imo. He gave them chances to speak and defend their cult but they clearly have their agenda.
 
It aint no different from Islam or any other crazy religion tbh. There, now i mentioned the "I" word too. Im soo dead. :p
 
Whatever one may feel about Scientologists, the Panorama program was a complete compost. There was, as Tommy Davis suggested, absolutely no objectivity at all.

A huge disappointment and the only explanation I can think of was that the BBC rushed it out to counter the Scientologists getting their defence in first.
 
Believe me I don't like the whole scientology thing but it gets me how the bbc + others take the micky out of this "unbelievable" theory of how aliens came to earth etc. But a virgin woman giving birth to a guy with special powers is somehow gospel????

I find both theories quite hard to beleive, maybe even siding with the aliens :)

..obviously not though as they charge for these theories.
 
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johnnyfive said:
Believe me I don't like the whole scientology thing but it gets me how the bbc + others take the micky out of this "unbelievable" theory of how aliens came to earth etc. But a virgin woman giving both to a guy with special powers is somehow gospel????

I find both theories quite hard to beleive, maybe even siding with the aliens :)

Aye "human kind abandoned on Earth 20,000 years ago is more plausible"
 
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