Bear Grylls

FTM · 11 Feb 2008 at 15:31

still got to do the SAS training even for the TA...they dont let you in if you can't hack it

it may be a reservist outfit but you still have to be ready and trained for active duty

semi-pro waster · 11 Feb 2008 at 15:32

Gilly said:
Bear Grylls fell 1500+ feet in a parachute accident, broke his back, then climbed Everest.

Ray Mears eats grubs.

And in a survival situation I'd go with Ray Mears as being the more likely of the two to actually help you get out alive. Bear Grylls' programmes are designed for the shock factor more than actual bushcraft from what I've seen but they are reasonably entertaining. I'm sure he knows his stuff but if he attempted some of the things he does for the show in a real survival situation he would more than likely end up dead.

FTM · 11 Feb 2008 at 15:32

and both of them are harder than Chuck Norris..fact!

Gilly · 11 Feb 2008 at 15:33

semi-pro waster said:
And in a survival situation I'd go with Ray Mears as being the more likely of the two to actually help you get out alive.

And in a TV situation I'd rather be watching the hardcore madman

iSam · 11 Feb 2008 at 15:35

semi-pro waster said:
And in a survival situation I'd go with Ray Mears as being the more likely of the two to actually help you get out alive. Bear Grylls' programmes are designed for the shock factor more than actual bushcraft from what I've seen but they are reasonably entertaining. I'm sure he knows his stuff but if he attempted some of the things he does for the show in a real survival situation he would more than likely end up dead.

Na, dont agree. Ray Mears knows his stuff but I just dont think he could hack it.

topshot · 11 Feb 2008 at 15:36

FTM said:
still got to do the SAS training even for the TA...they dont let you in if you can't hack it

it may be a reservist outfit but you still have to be ready and trained for active duty

who said he didnt? my comments were aimed that the people stating bear grylls is much more of a military orientated survival expert than Ray mears when in reality hes not.

jamief · 11 Feb 2008 at 15:37

Isotope said:
Na, dont agree. Ray Mears knows his stuff but I just dont think he could hack it.

And you are qualified in survival skills how exactly?!

Gilly · 11 Feb 2008 at 15:37

topshot said:
who said he didnt? my comments were aimed that the people stating bear grylls is much more of a military orientated survival expert than Ray mears when in reality hes not.

Why, what part of the forces was Mears in?

tom_e · 11 Feb 2008 at 15:40

Isotope said:
A reservist regiment of the SAS. Does such a thing exist? Im a banker but if needed I can kill a man with a piece of paper.

Yep 21 and 23 regement SAS are both TA units who go through all the same selection and traning a full time SAS soldier would

iSam · 11 Feb 2008 at 15:40

jamief said:
And you are qualified in survival skills how exactly?!

Im not, never said I was. Just my personal opinion from viewing both shows.

blitz2163 said:
Yep 21 and 23 regement SAS are both TA units who go through all the same selection and traning a full time SAS soldier would

I stand corrected.

semi-pro waster · 11 Feb 2008 at 15:42

Gilly said:
Why, what part of the forces was Mears in?

He isn't and wasn't as far as I know but since he teaches the armed forces how to survive or has done I'd have to say he is pretty good.

Isotope said:
Na, dont agree. Ray Mears knows his stuff but I just dont think he could hack it.

If he knows his stuff (and we've agreed on that part) and is physically fit enough (an extra layer of fat is likely to help up to a certain point in a survival situation) then why would he not be able to hack it?

Nash · 11 Feb 2008 at 15:45

wyrdo said:
No, it all happened in one morning. You should see what he got up to that afternoon!

LOL

aayzof · 11 Feb 2008 at 15:46

Mears ***** all over Grylls.

iSam · 11 Feb 2008 at 15:46

semi-pro waster said:
He isn't and wasn't as far as I know but since he teaches the armed forces how to survive or has done I'd have to say he is pretty good.

If he knows his stuff (and we've agreed on that part) and is physically fit enough (an extra layer of fat is likely to help up to a certain point in a survival situation) then why would he not be able to hack it?

Survival is not just about physical fitness, its about mental hardness. From viewing Ray Mears I PERSONALLY dont feel he can.

FTM · 11 Feb 2008 at 16:00

and if I was in a plane crash in the andes..I would want to look across and see Ray mears...not only for his survival skills, but if he perished in the crash it would feed me for a month!

FTM · 11 Feb 2008 at 16:02

and Ray mears does survival courses for all branches of the armed forces...in particular pilots who may have to live off the land

misterPK · 11 Feb 2008 at 16:50

There's just something about Bear Grylls that annoys me. Maybe its because he's a bit too over the top and slightly too posh for that kind of thing. Maybe its because he reminds me of Ben Fogle (who I also can't stand).

Ray Mears is miles better in his presentation style.

PK!

xen_ · 11 Feb 2008 at 16:53

I find Grylls annoying mostly, granted his show may be entertaining, but I hate how extreme he makes things look. I would rather watch Mears.

chrisd · 11 Feb 2008 at 17:02

Bear Grylls is X-treme!!!!!

:rolleyes:

Realist · 11 Feb 2008 at 17:04

Not many people are aware of 21 and 23 SAS and presume its only the FT 22. Been active with the guys from 21 (Newport) quite a few times but thats another story that I will not go into.

They do come from other regiments TA or regs and do the same training as 22 but some of the 21 guys like the sun glasses and brag a bit. They do a dam good job and work in the same theater as 22.

Regarding Bear, yes he was in 21 but did his back in and now runs around acting like a lemon and sleeps in hotels when the public thinks he's the real deal.

Knows his stuff yes but Ray Mears his what you call the "Educator" been there and done it and trains a few regs in regards to survival techniques.

Regards.