Soldato
I'm taking home 24-25k a year, the lad sitting next to me dropped a clanger the other day saying with shift allowance and everything he's a few thousand under the higher tax bracket. We do the same job, we're the same age, we're of equal skill level and work very well as a team.
The difference? He came from a £50k+ bank job and I came from a **** £18k job that I fell into after being made redundant. they could get away with offering me much less as it was still an increase even with travel costs, he took a pay cut to come here but only travels 9 miles instead of 40 to work now.
I'm not angry and him or the company, I understand the reasoning behind it, and at my pay review, it will be raised. Although its common knowledge that even the company is a great place to work, to really get more money you have to leave and then come back
The difference? He came from a £50k+ bank job and I came from a **** £18k job that I fell into after being made redundant. they could get away with offering me much less as it was still an increase even with travel costs, he took a pay cut to come here but only travels 9 miles instead of 40 to work now.
I'm not angry and him or the company, I understand the reasoning behind it, and at my pay review, it will be raised. Although its common knowledge that even the company is a great place to work, to really get more money you have to leave and then come back
Soldato
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Ask the government for the same grant
No, the guy is paid half by a government grant and half by the business, but previous employees on the same grant were paid at £8.00 and hour.
He is a lower level, not experienced, and yet he’s paid more.
I would highly recommend you find a higher paid job
I used to be on a very low wage about 20 years ago and life was always a struggle due to it...
One of my biggest mistakes in life was not getting out of that low paid job far earlier then I did..
Caporegime
The only question is whether you are happy with the pay for your job, there is zero value in getting upset about what someone else is being paid. If you're not happy: complain and/or leave. Otherwise carry on.
Soldato
lolreligion. Some of the managers from my old workplace were from the church. The non-believers like myself were frozen while the others got a yearly raise. After being there for 5 years, I was on £14.5k and yet they put a new starter (same job as me) on £15k. Some commenters on here said about to keep it quiet, but no, I bloody well went to the MD about this and he matched my wage to £15k. I think that new-starters should earn the same and then get increments for experience and a proven track record. I think there should be a law that prevents the OP's scenario where new-starters earn more than experienced staff for the same job spec.
So you couldn't play the gay discrimination card then, unless that one objection was the guy who decides pay
A quick search online for supermarkets show roles for £10/hr as shift leader and similar in other retail places, so there are other options out there. Changing companies every few years or so is one of the quicker ways to get more experience and an increased wage.
Soldato
Solid first post
Basically speak to your boss and be reasonable with him explain that you don’t think it’s appropriate that subordinates are being paid more than you. Or is it skilled work he is doing? Many supervisors are paid less than skilled workers they manage. Such as engineers in factories.
Basically speak to your boss and be reasonable with him explain that you don’t think it’s appropriate that subordinates are being paid more than you. Or is it skilled work he is doing? Many supervisors are paid less than skilled workers they manage. Such as engineers in factories.
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Solid first post
Basically speak to your boss and be reasonable with him explain that you don’t think it’s appropriate that subordinates are being paid more than you. Or is it skilled work he is doing? Many supervisors are paid less than skilled workers they manage. Such as engineers in factories.
the problem is you cannot say he is being paid more than me because no-one is supposed to know how much each person is on ?
its confidential information. i have been paid less than people that have come in after me doing the same job. been going on for years
i can't say much though, i have to justify a pay rise if i ask for one. i try and put it to the back of my mind, very annoying
Not at all, since 2010 it's illegal for employers to try and stipulate in a contract that you can't discuss your salary. It's only confidential for the people processing your information, not you discussing your own.
Though, like with all law there are caveats...
https://zlogg.co.uk/can-legally-discuss-work-pay-colleagues/
Soldato
This is true but in OPs case he was the one processing the information. Obviously the boss he would need to speak to for requesting a pay rise would also know this information so I dont know how the confidentiality would work between people who already have access to the information?
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happened to me a while back. was being paid less than everyone else and I was managing the team, taking all the stress, worked a stupid number of hours per week trying to keep on top of the workload, and ended up making myself ill. In the end I voted with my feet, left the company and never looked back. I learnt a very valuable lesson from that time.
Caporegime
Back in the day when I got promoted into junior management I was on more than my superior because there was a shift changeover they needed to fill vacancies fast so offered a good salary. My superior ended up getting a pay rise in the end but only because she queried it. Business is business at the end of the day and profits are there to be made.
Soldato
Your pay has nothing to do with your colleague it's between you and your employer. If you feel under paid then you need to renegotiate your contract or leave.
Soldato
There's a lot of quite negative comments in here. I just wanted to say that I think that's ****** of them and that you should stand your ground and get paid properly. If the kid is paid more then he should be the supervisor. Greater responsibility should equate to greater pay.
I think people are simply telling him that he has no legal basis to challenge the pay issue and the best way to sort it out would be to speak to his manager to see if a payrise can be agreed...not sure that is that negative, just realistic.