Poll: Belgian Grand Prix 2022, Spa-Francorchamps - Race 14

Rate the Belgian Grand Prix out of ten

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I'm gaining more respect for Max this year, some properly good drives and we'll deserved wins. Last year the title fight was very hot and it got pretty dirty at times. Not sure if that's changed this year because he's matured or if it's down to him being under less pressure.
 
Jono8 said:
Alonso's smack talk was pretty embarrassing considering Lewis has more wins NOT from pole, than Alonso has all together. Pretty funny seeing how bitter and butthurt he is every race weekend.
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Indeed. Man needs to accept Hamilton showed him up over a career and deal with it.
413x said:
I can respect max and rbr for that drive. The reason no one battled was because they set that bar.
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I don’t understand why Max gets all the reps for an amazing drive where in the same breath everyone admits no one fought him through the field :confused:

Even George just noped out and let him past which was very disappointing. Goes to show they all knew how much faster the car was.
 
Scam said:
Indeed. Man needs to accept Hamilton showed him up over a career and deal with it.

I don’t understand why Max gets all the reps for an amazing drive where in the same breath everyone admits no one fought him through the field :confused:

Even George just noped out and let him past which was very disappointing. Goes to show they all knew how much faster the car was.
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If he wasn't clearly as fast as he was in qualifying maybe people would have fought him.
So it was his and the cars speed that caused people to jump out of the way
 
Scam said:
What’s the deal with engines etc for RB? Pretty sure I heard Max has taken his “last” but unsure exactly what that means. Definitely seemed like they had a new Uber-one with the pace it gifted him.
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Not sure tbh, I doubt much changed with the engine really as they've been quick down the straights right from the start. Potentially teams could bring an electronics/battery update at Spa before it got frozen but I'm not sure who did that. Engine wise they should be fixed from the start of the season but I think I read at least Ferrari have made some changes for 'reliability', no idea if the FIA release the information on who does that?

3 Engines just isn't enough for this many races it seems, just guessing here but I wouldn't surprised to see RB and Ferrari on their 5th/6th engines and Merc to get to 4 at least, that's in the works teams.

RB 'just' seem to have developed a car that is comfortably the fastest down the straights and spanked everyone around S2 at Spa round the corners, that's a hell of an achievement.
 
Scam said:
Indeed. Man needs to accept Hamilton showed him up over a career and deal with it.

I don’t understand why Max gets all the reps for an amazing drive where in the same breath everyone admits no one fought him through the field :confused:

Even George just noped out and let him past which was very disappointing. Goes to show they all knew how much faster the car was.
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What's the point in defending against a car that is notably faster than yours? You're just going to lose time fighting a battle that will cost you and your team points.

Max had a fresh engine, which was worth a lot, but there's no denying that he drove every ounce of potential out of that car to be so dominant.
 
413x said:
If he wasn't clearly as fast as he was in qualifying maybe people would have fought him.
So it was his and the cars speed that caused people to jump out of the way
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That's my point. Everyone saying "amazing drive by Max" yet he literally didn't have a fight with anyone.
SKILL said:
RB 'just' seem to have developed a car that is comfortably the fastest down the straights
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Indeed. I think that's why it's quite boring to be honest. Couple it with DRS and nobody can stop them. I don't understand why we still have DRS now that the cars can follow more easily. The racing would be far more entertaining, not this DRS snoozefest we've got this year.

I don't want to divert the thread but when you look at last season, the RB didn't have quite the straight line speed which meant Max was going for more aggressive overtakes (you know, like actually in/around corners). If you look at a race like Qatar (??) I think it was where Max ran Lewis off the road multiple times and they had the brake test incident as well.. I think that race in particularly showed Max's lack of ability to overtake fairly when he doesn't have the DRS advantage. Even this season at the beginning, Leclerc was showing him up with regards to straight-up racing. People saying he's racing more fairly this year but beyond those battles with Leclerc for th first few races it's really been DRS pass after DRS pass. I'm sure the MV fans will just call this a rant etc. but whatever. With regards to DRS, it's a fair point.
Mesai said:
What's the point in defending against a car that is notably faster than yours? You're just going to lose time fighting a battle that will cost you and your team points.
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You could argue that if you can keep a notably faster car behind you, you could keep a similarly matched car behind you too. Again, it's really DRS that is adding to this lame attitude by drivers I think.
 
Scam said:
You could argue that if you can keep a notably faster car behind you, you could keep a similarly matched car behind you too. Again, it's really DRS that is adding to this lame attitude by drivers I think.
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Still have to put your race on the line to defend against someone who you're not realistically fighting in terms of points. Merc are in this for 3rd place, maybe 2nd if Ferrari keep blowing it.

Even without DRS, Max would have overtaken the Merc.
 
SKILL said:
I'd say Merc can still overtake Ferrari really, if Hamilton hadn't screwed up they would've got 4th and 5th at a minimum, Hamilton has outraced Russell most of the season so taking 3rd off Sainz may have been possible and that's at a bad track for the Merc which as you say is way too inconsistent.
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Yeah, I agree. Ferrari should be comfortably second after the first half of the season, but instead they seem beatable still. That said, 41 points is a solid gap.

I still kinda expect a Merc (and even Hamilton) win before the end of the season but we'll see.
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It's not often we see a season without the third place (or even lower) team landing a win, so I think it's more likely than not. Merc just need the stars to align in their favour and they might even do it on merit.
 
Mr Jack said:
There was quite a lot of midfield action: Ocon, in particular, pulled some great moves. Both Max and Leclerc made their way through half the field. When I look back on what happens it feels like it should have been a more entertaining race than it was.
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I think it is the race director
413x said:
I don't care about the front, I support alpine.
And there was loads of great battling in the mid field. Ocon did 2 double overtakes for example . There was stuff going on all the way through.

If you're a Hamilton supporter or only follow the front you definitely won't like this. And I'm guessing that's why the race got voted so low.


I can respect max and rbr for that drive. The reason no one battled was because they set that bar.


But yeah I loved it
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The problem is, there wasn't much televised and shown in the midfield battle.

The reason why many don't care about the midfield battle is that the midfield don't necessarily win anything for finishing where they are or even having a bearing of who wins the overall title.

It's not like in football where the mid teams can have a bit of a say on who wins the title or the fact that the top 6 all fighting for something,

In F1 its the drivers championship and the team construction championship.

So if you're team was one of the bigger teams like ferrari rb or merc, would you still have said the race was great?
 
jonneymendoza said:
I think it is the race director

The problem is, there wasn't much televised and shown in the midfield battle.

The reason why many don't care about the midfield battle is that the midfield don't necessarily win anything for finishing where they are or even having a bearing of who wins the overall title.

It's not like in football where the mid teams can have a bit of a say on who wins the title or the fact that the top 6 all fighting for something,

In F1 its the drivers championship and the team construction championship.

So if you're team was one of the bigger teams like ferrari rb or merc, would you still have said the race was great?
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Yeah I get that.

Supporting an alpine team you know there's no chance of a win on merit. And no chance of a WDC/WCC.

You just have to accept best of the rest is a win.

I've managed my expectations over time.
The lower battles are. Much more. Interesting too. They do not get enough air time for sure.
 
jonneymendoza said:
I think it is the race director
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Do you mean the TV director here? I'm not sure what race direction did to effect things. The coverage wasn't great, but thinking about it some more I think the biggest problem was DRS. While there was action nearly all of it was easy DRS assists cruising past without any real show of skill or strategy and no sign of battling.
 
cuke2u said:
Anyone heard on what damage might have happened to Lewis's car yet?
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With the way Bono told him to stop, I reckon the bounce broke something internally. You could see smoke coming out the back of it; initially thought it was broken floor rubbing, but probably broke a connection.
 
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