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Best B450 mobo for Ryzen 3600?

TNA said:
Yeah, that is still a good clock. As long as you have decent cooling and fan profile then it’s all good.

I do love running mine at 4.2GHz and at 1.15v. Hardly any heat at all, runs so cool. If I ever need a bit more performance I then go to my 4.4GHz profile :D
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Cool. So your clocking just with the master software? Always been an old school BIOS guy. As I have not fiddled with that yet just set XMP on memory, what do you recommend to change for a power optimised profile as I care not for benching these days?
 
Personally going off past experience from using Aorus on my 1080ti's, I would never pick any product with the Aorus branding again. In my experience the software is just plain crap.
 
Len Dananey said:
Personally going off past experience from using Aorus on my 1080ti's, I would never pick any product with the Aorus branding again. In my experience the software is just plain crap.
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What software? Lighting? What other software is there on a graphics card? All I look for is price, warranty and cooler. Software matters not, as nvidia or amd deal with drivers which is the only software that matters imo.
 
TNA said:
What software? Lighting? What other software is there on a graphics card? All I look for is price, warranty and cooler. Software matters not, as nvidia or amd deal with drivers which is the only software that matters imo.
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Gigabyte Aorus Engine mate, it is awful and so bad infact it makes Corsairs CUE look good. Going off that software and how pathetic it is, I would never touch Aorus again personally, just my opinion.
 
Len Dananey said:
Gigabyte Aorus Engine mate, it is awful and so bad infact it makes Corsairs CUE look good. Going off that software and how pathetic it is, I would never touch Aorus again personally, just my opinion.
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Fair enough.

I agree their software is definitely below the quality of say ASUS (on motherboards anyway). But I never use their software or if I do it is just for a short while to change a setting and get out so it does not bother me personally. My thoughts are hardware and warranty first, software after that, unless the software is critical to the product which for a graphics card it is not imo, as it is just lightning.
 
TNA said:
Fair enough.

I agree their software is definitely below the quality of say ASUS (on motherboards anyway). But I never use their software or if I do it is just for a short while to change a setting and get out so it does not bother me personally. My thoughts are hardware and warranty first, software after that, unless the software is critical to the product which for a graphics card it is not imo, as it is just lightning.
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I guess, you don't have to use the software really so I shouldn't have brought it up. It just put me off really is all.
 
Len Dananey said:
I guess, you don't have to use the software really so I shouldn't have brought it up. It just put me off really is all.
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When I used lightning software on a graphics card in the past it was just to set the lighting I wanted, was a zotac card I think, then you could even uninstall the software if you wanted.

Anyway. No big deal man, we are all different :D
 
lnoton said:
How is the elite? Not bothered about sound, as I imagine my ae-5 will be better and I'll carry it over.
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Apart from maybe RAM being more fussy (not sure if due to this mobo or just the platform in general) everything has been fine. If you get the latest BIOS everything works as it should.
 
Journey said:
Not sure why you didn't just stick to a decent MSI B450 for £85, have your seen any benefit from the X570 board yet, at what 125% more expensive?
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It was around 100% and the benefit so far probably has been faster BIOS updates. Not sure if it helped at all with my overclocking. It just gives me a bit more flexibility and piece of mind for the future when I plonk in a 4900X/4950X. It will likely get more support in the future also vs b450 boards. I do agree with you though, not exactly the best price for performance vs b450.
 
TNA said:
It was around 100% and the benefit so far probably has been faster BIOS updates. Not sure if it helped at all with my overclocking. It just gives me a bit more flexibility and piece of mind for the future when I plonk in a 4900X/4950X. It will likely get more support in the future also vs b450 boards. I do agree with you though, not exactly the best price for performance vs b450.
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Certainly there is the hope that the BIOS updates will continue for longer, not sure about the speed of them though as I've used a heck of a lot of the MSI MAX board variants and most of them had 1.0.0.4 B before the end of October, around 2 weeks after this thread started actually :)

As for overclocking, then I guess it might play a part but a 3600 isn't really taxing a board at all unless you were putting 2v through it. :D
 
Journey said:
As for overclocking, then I guess it might play a part but a 3600 isn't really taxing a board at all unless you were putting 2v through it. :D
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My understanding of this is the B450 boards lack decent cooling on the VRM's. So much so people make a big deal of it and certain tubers slate brands. My solution was to mod a spare fan to sit either on top of the area, or lately build a case fan to blow directly onto this area. This alleviates the sole problem of boards X,Y,Z are naff - 'get the tomahawk' herd mentality.

You should be also buying a board based on the features you use, or want to use. Then of course price.
 
Journey said:
Certainly there is the hope that the BIOS updates will continue for longer, not sure about the speed of them though as I've used a heck of a lot of the MSI MAX board variants and most of them had 1.0.0.4 B before the end of October, around 2 weeks after this thread started actually :)

As for overclocking, then I guess it might play a part but a 3600 isn't really taxing a board at all unless you were putting 2v through it. :D
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That is weird, I do not recall anyone here getting 1.0.0.4 B, as I recall I was one of the first. I even remember websites coming out with the news that 1.0.0.4 B was getting released soon and that was after I got my board. Does not matter really, as I said, the idea is I can just put in a 4900X or 4950X later on. Chances are the elite will handle it better than a Tomohawk Max :p

I was close to getting an MSI Tomohawk Max, they were closer to £100 at the time, but one of the things I recall not liking on there was the very basic sound chip. There may have been other things too but I do not recall. All I remember was I spent around an extra £70 for piece of mind and latest chipset.
 
B450 MAX has been running very nicely with the 3600 in my missus's new build. I purchased a second B450 MAX for my new build and will be grabbing another 3600, can't complain for the prices atm.
 
Th0nt said:
My understanding of this is the B450 boards lack decent cooling on the VRM's. So much so people make a big deal of it and certain tubers slate brands. My solution was to mod a spare fan to sit either on top of the area, or lately build a case fan to blow directly onto this area. This alleviates the sole problem of boards X,Y,Z are naff - 'get the tomahawk' herd mentality.

You should be also buying a board based on the features you use, or want to use. Then of course price.
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I don’t think that’s the case with all boards. Some have horrid heat sinks that just don’t do a lot. Blowing a fan over it will only sort out some problems not others.

I am also failing to think why anyone would fork out a chunk of money for B550 or the X570. AM4 is near the end of life. Only the next gen of ryzen will be on AM4 after that a new socket is required. So why splash so much cash knowing the socket is going to end in like 2 years...B450 is perfectly fine for all of the needs of nowadays. No?
 
some of the 570 boards are dropping to reasonable prices now seen some as low as 120 recently but the fan on the mobo is really off putting.
 
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