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Best bang for buck CPU - i7 4790k upgrade

dlockers said:
Is the 7600 "better" than the 5800X, or are you just thinking of upgradeability?
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Depends on what you are doing. For gaming a Ryzen 5 7600 is faster:
www.techspot.com

AMD Ryzen 5 9600X Review

In a nutshell, what makes the Ryzen 5 9600X a bad product is the fact that it's often slower than its predecessor and yet somehow costs 40%...
www.techspot.com www.techspot.com

The Ryzen 5 7700 has been as low as £220 recently(if you shop around) and then Chinese sellers have the Ryzen 7 7700 and Ryzen 5 7500F from £115.

dlockers said:
This is stressful, lol.

I can do an AM5 build for £45 more than the AM4 build. Is this really "better"? I can see power is much better and therefore heat may be easier to manage...

Corsair 32GB 6000mHZ - 88
Asrock B650M - 111
7600 Ryzen - 180
+cooler

I plan to use my 5700XT as well; I presume that isn't an issue with any of my ideas so far.
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If you use price comparison sites or one of the numerous famous auction site discount codes,you can reduce that price further.

The ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 is the one to go for. For RAM,6000CL30 or 6000CL32 is the best. Thermalright make some good air coolers for under £25.
 
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I'm not in any rush, so after all this nonsense, I'm chancing an import 7700.

(I presume all of this discussion is allowed on OCUK, apols if not - newbie to this board).
 
User benchmark says so.

On serious point,

AM4 - £45 cheaper, 3d cache will help in some games, end of line, no OC.
AM5 - same performance in games overall, better productivity, drop in upgrade down the line, ddr5, small OC.
 
Thanks all. I assume my PSU is still OK? Like I said my GPU is just a flashed ATI RX5700 (flashed to XT model).

Corsair CP-9020048-UK Builder Series CX600 ATX/EPS 80 PLUS Bronze Power Supply Unit, 600 W
 
I’m gonna say the Ryzen 7800X3D, after the 9800X3D releases in November.

Might be able to get them for around £300… 2nd hand prices are already close to that.

Edit - Since you’re on a budget, I think the Ryzen 7700 will serve you well. The performance is nearly identical to rhe X version.
 
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I've just bought a 7500F for £92 brand new on import, hard to see anything that's better VFM than this currently especially on the new AM5 platform.
 
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My basket at OcUK:

Total: £362.96 (includes delivery: £0.00)​
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why when you can have X3d for the same money with more ram​
Glanza said:
With the price of the 12700k currently something like this:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £364.93 (includes delivery: £0.00)​
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AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D Eight Core 4.1GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail
PRO-AMD-01799
£240 (incl. VAT)
£195 (incl. VAT)
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Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2 (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard
MB-594-GI
£93 (incl. VAT)
£85 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
Team Group 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Ki
MEM-8PK-02586
£60 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
Intel Core i7-12700K 3.60GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail
CP-69Z-IN
£300 (incl. VAT)
£195 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
MSI B760 Gaming Plus WIFI (LGA 1700) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
MOT-MSI-03047
£130 (incl. VAT)
£120 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
Team Group 8Pack Edition 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit
MEM-8PK-02585
£40 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
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dlockers said:
I think I am looking for an inexpensive mobo, RAM, CPU jobbie that is at least comparable for single core performance but offers something in higher productivity loads (usual home worker stuff - PPT, XLS, streams etc). I love CS:GO which is pretty low end but I may get into something higher end as my kid grows up and I get some time back.
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WARburton said:
why when you can have X3d for the same money with more ram
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In the OP they posted that it the PC was more for productivity loads. Granted since posting OCUK have put the price of the 12700K up today for the 'black Friday sale'
 
7700 was fitted to an Asrock board today. I hadn't realised the kit I removed included a Noctua NH-U14; so the one I am replacing it with is much worse (Thermalright Spirit 120). I also forgot to buy thermal paste and in stead of using the supplied Thermalright stuff, I used a tube of Artic Silver 5 that I have just discovered is 13 years old :cry::cry:

CPU seems to bounce around a lot and it is 60 odd degrees idle. I assume a combo of Thermalright cheapie and 13 year old Thermal Paste may be why it is "high"? Or is it about that to be expected?

Fan keeps throttling up and down which is annoying AF - I guess that is clever fan mgmt that my old board didn't do.
 
dlockers said:
so the one I am replacing it with is much worse (Thermalright Spirit 120)
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It isn't the cooler that's causing your problem, the Thermalright peerless assassin/phantom spirit is competitive with Noctua coolers 2x/3x the price. You didn't get the cheaper assassin spirit, right?


www.tomshardware.com

Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO Review: This isn’t a competition. This is a massacre.

As long as it will fit in your case, this is the air cooler you should probably buy.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com

dlockers said:
CPU seems to bounce around a lot and it is 60 odd degrees idle.
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This is somewhat normal with Ryzen due to the boost behaviour intended to optimise responsiveness, though even then it does sound high.

dlockers said:
Fan keeps throttling up and down which is annoying AF - I guess that is clever fan mgmt that my old board didn't do.
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There are quite a few different ways to tackle this.

E.g. you could:
  1. Curb the burst behaviour.
  2. Change the fan curve so it ramps up more slowly as the temperature increases.
  3. Change the fan curve so it only ramps up at a temperature when you're doing a fully multithreaded workload (e.g. hits 75+).
  4. Change how responsively the fan ramps up/down to temperature.
 
Tetras said:
It isn't the cooler that's causing your problem, the Thermalright peerless assassin/phantom spirit is competitive with Noctua coolers 2x/3x the price. You didn't get the cheaper assassin spirit, right?


www.tomshardware.com

Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO Review: This isn’t a competition. This is a massacre.

As long as it will fit in your case, this is the air cooler you should probably buy.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com


This is somewhat normal with Ryzen due to the boost behaviour intended to optimise responsiveness, though even then it does sound high.


There are quite a few different ways to tackle this.

E.g. you could:
  1. Curb the burst behaviour.
  2. Change the fan curve so it ramps up more slowly as the temperature increases.
  3. Change the fan curve so it only ramps up at a temperature when you're doing a fully multithreaded workload (e.g. hits 75+).
  4. Change how responsively the fan ramps up/down to temperature.
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Thanks really appreciate the help! It is the cheaper assassin but I'm in returns window. Am I miles off with 60 degrees or is that about right? Will watch the video shortly
 
dlockers said:
Thanks really appreciate the help! It is the cheaper assassin but I'm in returns window. Am I miles off with 60 degrees or is that about right? Will watch the video shortly
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is the 60c underload?
in bios under the fan options there is an option to slow the fans reaction speed to help take out out the yoyo'in you get with some cpu's
 
WARburton said:
is the 60c underload?
in bios under the fan options there is an option to slow the fans reaction speed to help take out out the yoyo'in you get with some cpu's
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60 idle. I tried MSI Afterburner but it was very poor UX; so I am using my tried and tested SpeedFan app which can be a bit glitchy on which sensor it thinks is what.

Basically I turn on the 'puter and it says 60.
 
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