Good luck keeping tabs on the SMS centres when they change their numbers. Be better off giving the money to your neighbour. If you go that way just buy a bloomin speech dialler and be done with it.
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Good luck keeping tabs on the SMS centres when they change their numbers. Be better off giving the money to your neighbour. If you go that way just buy a bloomin speech dialler and be done with it.
Yep, I think I would go with a GSM signaller, just add a sim card.
I think a lot of this depends on if the police can get to the house in time or not, I'm thinking if an alarm is going off the chavs are not going to hang around, so all a monitoring or GSM comm is going to tell him is to get back home because his front door is open.
Well obviously, hence why they are in prison. That would be like asking some people in a swimming pool if they are put off by the water.
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They went through a lot of dog alarms before finally being caught but mostly for drugs.
Any adult burglar will also have a massive success rate with dogs in the house.
Dogs are quite useless at being an alarm.
At the very least OP put some dummy boxes & cameras up.
Depends,
Many boxes now have a knightrider led that requires power, a dummy probably won't.
Also a lot of dummies are put up in an obvious 'no way would an installer site it here' position.
Most CCTV has IR leds, at night these show up on a mobile phone camera as a point of light, dummy cameras don't have this.
Also every dummy CCTV I've seen does not have an IP68 box to put the cables into, or has amazingly tucked them into a 5mm hole somewhere.
You can fake some stuff, but any chav with a braincell will see through most of them.
I probably shouldn't mention how easy alarms are to disable
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BTW anyone know where I can get those steel super strong shutters to put on windows? LIke they have in shops in rough areas like Brixton London. That rpg would not go through it.
Not disputing the unreliability of dos in general but why do people who recommend dogs always recommend big dogs? My family have kept Lhasa Apsos for years and they don't tolerate strangers at all, if the object is to have a living alarm then a big dog doesn't gain you anything imo.
They are better looking.
I probably shouldn't mention how easy alarms are to disable
Please do...
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I'd like to know this too, as the response times on panel zones are very quick if you are to tamper with cables, What with DT's having anti-mask features etc, do share your knowledge
Edit: I think someone has been watching too much Beverly Hills Cop
Edit: I think someone has been watching too much Beverly Hills Cop
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Depends,
Many boxes now have a knightrider led that requires power, a dummy probably won't.
Also a lot of dummies are put up in an obvious 'no way would an installer site it here' position.
Most CCTV has IR leds, at night these show up on a mobile phone camera as a point of light, dummy cameras don't have this.
Also every dummy CCTV I've seen does not have an IP68 box to put the cables into, or has amazingly tucked them into a 5mm hole somewhere.
You can fake some stuff, but any chav with a braincell will see through most of them.
I probably shouldn't mention how easy alarms are to disable
It was just a statement basically saying "Just put a deterrent on the outside of the house" which will deter a % from even coming up the drive.
A dog will also be a deterrent for a % but your property could be damaged before your living deterrent kicks in.
So absolute basics would be dummy deterrents then a barking dog but this wouldn't deter a professional or drugged up burglar.
Of course stick proper alarms up with proper LEDs and a pro should spot the real thing and will make a decision on how much time he might have before neighbours get involved.
I would also like to see you disable my outside alarm.
Tamper with my internal box and my two alarm boxes have their own batteries.
Tamper with the alarm box and it goes off.
Yep, really a blue box in the right position powered from a 12v brick is going to look legit.
I'd imagine that a dog, big, yappy or otherwise would not attact any more attention from neighbours than being the usual irritating dog that you'd just wish would shut up.
The time to remove the screws from the alarm box is roughly how long the bell would remain active, it will still go off for those 30 seconds minus entry delay.
Alternativly bell boxes don't always have the rear tamper installed as it's just another callout failure, you then have access to the 6 core, same process.
I could time it I guess, I've got a veritas panel on my bench now.
shoddy installation of ungraded kit... I just hope you aren't an installer. Rear tamper is necessary and if do e right first time there are no callouses. I maybe had one hen the ridiculous winds were about, that was it. But even then you would have to get to the bell box, disconnect it, break in to the house, find the panel, pop the fuse and then disconnect the battery...not really going to happen on a proper install now is it.
Would agree, grade 3 blocks and the protection on DT's make them very good.I'd like to know this too, as the response times on panel zones are very quick if you are to tamper with cables, What with DT's having anti-mask features etc, do share your knowledge
The panel is the weak point, specifically the simple level signalling between BB and panel.
Don't worry I'm not an installer but I did work for Scantronics years ago on telemetry. Best designs in the business at the time, best technical managers I've ever met.
You'll know that some installers are cowboys then, so tamper circuits are often 'optimised' as frankly who is going to tamper with stuff on a domestic? Especially a BB.
They are also supposed to be bolted down but many are still fixed with rawlplugs.
Disconnecting a BB (cut wire) will still trigger it (SAB) or popping the fuse and the battery will still trigger I think. Panels with dead batteries will alarm when the power goes off around here, so same thing.
The fact remains, the alarm will only continue to sound until shortly after the front panel is removed, which is why it's important to locate the panel in the most inaccessible site possible. This is the real benefit of ARC monitoring in that somebody has to respond.
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