Best, Most potential and worst signings of 2010-2011 season.

Tom84 said:
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Baz all I've said is he's being overhyped, obviously I couldn't claim he's being overhyped without giving reasons so yes his goal return & the short amount of time he's been with you are factors in this, only however when ex players and fans (like Purdy) are talking him up as this and that and likening him to Liverpool legends and your recently departed star centre forward.

If by now Suarez had scored 8/9 goals for you in as many games lets be honest however premature they may still be it would be a lot harder to argue with you all.

As for you feeling I'm contradicting myself that would only be true if I was of the opinion that Luiz is also being overhyped as it is I dont feel that is the case (proved by yours and Purdy's criticism of him). I certainly wouldn't claim him or any player signed in January to be a signing of the season though if that's what you're assuming, not in a season when we signed Hernandez in the summer for 6m anyway!!
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I'd love to see where I've overhyped him by comparing his quality to that of the King's or saying he's a better signing than Torres. I've said he's been amazing for us, he has. So has Lucas, doesn't meek I think he's Alonso.

Also if you can't understand my point of if Luiz is on the best list and suarez in relation to that Is on potential and how that is wrong and Suarez atlases deserves to be mentioned in the same category (taking nothing away from which one Luiz is in) you're just being arrogant for the sake of trying to be right or just thick.

Hernandez is bargain of the year/signing.
 
Purdy said:
I'd love to see where I've overhyped him by comparing his quality to that of the King's or saying he's a better signing than Torres. I've said he's been amazing for us, he has. So has Lucas, doesn't meek I think he's Alonso.

Also if you can't understand my point of if Luiz is on the best list and suarez in relation to that Is on potential and how that is wrong and Suarez atlases deserves to be mentioned in the same category (taking nothing away from which one Luiz is in) you're just being arrogant for the sake of trying to be right or just thick.

Hernandez is bargain of the year/signing.
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Purdy like it or not you said you disagree with Luiz being talked about as a buy of the season and Suarez as one that only has potential, now whether or not you've since changed that opinion since you said that I couldn't care less because I only replied to your initial post, I've ignored you since.

And yes you have overhyped him, he tore practically our whole team apart when you beat us ring any bells? Even your opening goal that day he only beat two of our players not exactly our whole team is it :o

Oh and Baz I'm not adding anything to my argument you just fail to see the big picture straight away unless it's obviously spelt out for you ;)
 
drunkenmaster said:
I talked about the 2 goals against Chelsea, which you ignored,

He also puts in 100% work rate drops deep to pick up the ball, scores from anywhere and pressures the ball, all things Hernandez doesn't do.

He was compared to others as maybe the best POACHER in the game today, he's not, the closest people to the best poachers in the game are who I compared him to, Raul and RVN. Drogba, Berbatov, Tevez are NOT poachers, nor have they ever been, yet have all outscored the "best poacher in the world, possibly", which rather suggests that no he's not the best poacher in the world. I also didn't compare the "best poacher in the world, possibly" to, VDS, Wilshire, Evra, Kompany, etc, etc, because that would be just as pointless.

But you're doing the usual thing, you're reading into things I didn't say, making up rubbish, adding things I didn't say and calling me wrong on them.

Firstly I didn't say he was rubbish, I said to be considered the BEST in the world in a position after one season is not only insane, its not even true for THIS season, an OAP(in football) has done better than him at a MUCH worse team thats scored half the amount Utd has in the league, thats massively more impressive.

He has potential, for sure, but see how he's doing in two years. Kevin Phillips, Zaki, Rooney with 20+ goals once, loads of players have one fantastic season and never ever come close again. Raul has done it for best part of 15 years, Hernandez COULD be great in the future, he could get 4 goals next season while playing 50 full games, lets see what he does before proclaiming him the best poacher in the game maybe?
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DM you haven't mentioned anything about him scoring against Chelsea

Drogba hasn't outscored him this season FYI

As for the rest of your tangent are you sure your argument is with me? It seems you're taking exception with what other people have said and aiming your response at me, I never said you claimed he was rubbish nor was it me that proclaimed him to be the best anything in the world - I only took exception with you doing your usual trick of listing someone's stats against lesser teams and using that as a negative, you've done it here with Hernandez and you did it last year with Valencia
 
Tom84 said:
Oh and Baz I'm not adding anything to my argument you just fail to see the big picture straight away unless it's obviously spelt out for you ;)
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No, you just added things everytime your reason for him being overhyped was rubbished :p

And Suarez beat 4 Utd players for our first goal; he was surrounded by Smalling and Rafael to begin with, he left them for dead with his first turn, then Carrick and then Brown :)
 
Tom84 said:
Purdy like it or not you said you disagree with Luiz being talked about as a buy of the season and Suarez as one that only has potential, now whether or not you've since changed that opinion since you said that I couldn't care less because I only replied to your initial post, I've ignored you since.

And yes you have overhyped him, he tore practically our whole team apart when you beat us ring any bells? Even your opening goal that day he only beat two of our players not exactly our whole team is it :o

Oh and Baz I'm not adding anything to my argument you just fail to see the big picture straight away unless it's obviously spelt out for you ;)
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I disagreed with Suarez being named as potential in comparison to Luiz being a signing of the season. Do you understand the concept of a direct comparison?

Did you watch the match of us against you or too busy eating your prawn sarnie? Beat 2 men for our first goal lol?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iii8ZGT003s - Particularly like the bit where he leaves Evra chewing the grass.
He was also heavily involved in the other 2 goals, one being a direct assist, and troubled your defence and midfield all afternoon.

Also the fact you've 'ignore me since' doesn't really make sense since you'v replied to quite a few posts and seems to be selective ignoring so you can assume to yourself you're right.
 
Bit confused about Lehmann being on the "worst" list; iirc he signed on a monthly contract (so no worries about long term expenditure on wages), we had an injury crisis which meant he had to step in one game at the last minute, and IMO he did just fine.

Also Darren Bent under "Potential" - do me a favour? The guy is 27 not 17, has already been involved in THREE 8-digit transfer fees (how many Premiership players can you say that about) has been a consistent goalscorer over the past 5 years and has worked his way into the England team. Just what, exactly, does he have the "potential" to become/achieve?
 
Only Arsenal:

Best - Jens Lehnmann (ARS)

Experienced GK who will be our new GK coach next season. Will help Woj be Arsenal's No 1 for the next 20 years.

Worst - Seb Squillachi (ARS)

Waste of Money. He is not good enough for the Premiership.

Potential - Ryo Miyaichi (ARS)

He is doing brilliantly at Feyenoord. He has the speed of Walcott but can actually dribble the ball past opponents and create Magic. He is going to be phenomenal for us next season.

For Premier League

Best - Hernandez

Worst - Joe Cole

Potential - Carroll
 
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Best:

Luiz
Suarez (poor boy should have had more by now)
Pennant (has given Stoke some flare finally!)
Walters!
VDV
Hernandez
Sturridge (Loan)
Welbeck (Loan)
Foster
Meireles
Silva
Bent
Smalling


Flops:

Poulsen
Konchesky
Cole
Jovanovic (I feel a pattern emerging..)
Torres, but this will change, just a few games too late.
Chamakh on current form


I also think Dzeko will come good, Man City was the wrong team, should have gone to Tottenham he'd have been banging in goals.
 
Can I put an honourable mention for:

Snow Peter. Odemeingie.

1 million cost 12 goals scored against some good teams.

He has to make the pound for pound list despite you all missing him off in favour of big club signings.
 
The Running Man said:
Can I put an honourable mention for:

Snow Peter. Odemeingie.

1 million cost 12 goals scored against some good teams.

He has to make the pound for pound list despite you all missing him off in favour of big club signings.
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**** me, 1 million for 12 goals this season, that is impressive.
 
mikeyp123 said:
Chamakh on current form
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Does annoy me a bit the way Chamakh gets bashed for his form/goal scoring record. The simple fact is he has not been given a single start in the league this year. He literally hasn't been in the pitch in the first half of ANY league match this year. In the fact the only game in which he was given more than half an hour, he got an assist. He's played a total of 154mins this year (plus injury time), or less than the equivalent of two matches.

OK fair enough he did go off the boil a bit in December, but in his first season in the league that is understandable given the workload he'd been given with RvP being out injured (more minutes than any other Arsenal player at the time I think). And up to the end of November he had a decent return of 7 goals in the league.

But these stats that get rolled out, oh Chamakh hasn't scored for x number of games, well the last 7 of those have all been secondhalf appearances, 5mins here, 11mins there - hardly surprisingly his goals have dried up.
 
Tom84 said:
And yes you have overhyped him, he tore practically our whole team apart when you beat us ring any bells? Even your opening goal that day he only beat two of our players not exactly our whole team is it :o
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A Qn for you Tom
what do you call a situation where someone allows your team to organize a "Wall" while the rest of the players take positions behind the ball, the keeper inclusive. Then he takes a free kick passed all of your players before the keeper(who was warned in advance) fidgets with the ball before our player(DK) scores a goal.
IMO i would call it first gathering a team and then tearing it apart. What about you??
 
Over the course of the season as a whole, Hernandez @ £6m looks a fantastic signing.

Since January, clearly David Luiz has been superb, and Darren Bent has been brilliant - he invigorated us when we needed a shot in the arm.

Torres has undoubtedly been the worst signing thus far, considering his £50m outlay, and personally think Dzeko at £24m ish has been dubious.
 
bagsjoni said:
A Qn for you Tom
what do you call a situation where someone allows your team to organize a "Wall" while the rest of the players take positions behind the ball, the keeper inclusive. Then he takes a free kick passed all of your players before the keeper(who was warned in advance) fidgets with the ball before our player(DK) scores a goal.
IMO i would call it first gathering a team and then tearing it apart. What about you??
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I call it sailing a ball over a human wall (or around it I dont remember the specifics)

Tearing a team apart would be to take on and go past 5 or 6 players, or to continually get the better of every opposition player in your way

If you honestly think getting a free kick on target constitutes tearing a team apart then Seb Larsson must do it every time he scores a free kick as well :o
 
Tom84 said:
I call it sailing a ball over a human wall (or around it I dont remember the specifics)

Tearing a team apart would be to take on and go past 5 or 6 players, or to continually get the better of every opposition player in your way

If you honestly think getting a free kick on target constitutes tearing a team apart then Seb Larsson must do it every time he scores a free kick as well :o
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Lmao Bagsjoni

Good thing Suarez did what you described in your second sentence :).
 
Not sure what you're on about! Konchesky has been a pretty decent signing for us! It looked like we weren't going to have a left back for the second half of the season again!

Onlyhalfjoking.
 
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