Best Rad 140mm Fan, High Static Pressure

I'm also interested in seeing comparison of PH-F140MP against TY-143 / TY-147 at 600, 900, 1200, 1500, 1800, 2100rpm etc. .. and/or NF-A14 / NF-A15 series fans .. as they perform almost identical to TY-14x series fans at same speed.
 
PH-F140MP goes from 500-1600 rpm, as is the case with most 140mm fans. The only other 140mm fans I have are Cougar CF-V14HB, Gelid Wing 14, Corsair AF140, NB PK-2, NB PK-3. Maybe someone else can compare these against the Noctua/Thermaltake offerings but it only makes sense to do with for the 140mm fans with proper 140mm fan holes since these are meant for rads and used with others alongside.
 
That video is rather vague and somewhat misleading. Phanteks uses their Enthoo Primo case, but in the first part of video they do not appear to be using the supplied black and white PH-F140SP fans .. while near the end they show case using F140SP fans.

I do not think the video bar graph reflects the performance similarity website specifications indicate.

F140SP = 82.0cfm/1.33mm H2O
F140MP = 68.1cfm/1.82mm H2O
That is + 14cfm / - 0.29mm H2O statistical difference .. I would expect their performance to be relatively similar .. and bar graph shows the F140MP twice as good as F140SP
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		PH-F140MP		PH-F140SP

Colors		Black W/ White blades	Black W/ white blades
Dimensions	140 x 140 x 25mm	140 x 140 x 25mm
Speed (RPM)	00-1600 ± 250 rpm	1200 ± 250 rpm
Max Airflow	68.1 CFM		82.1 CFM
Noise		17-25.3 dB (A)		19 dB (A)
Static Pressure	1.62 mm H2O		1.33mm H2O
Input Current	0.2 A			0.14 A
Rate Voltage	DC 12V			DC 12V
Input Power	2.4 W			1.8 W
MTBF		>150,000 h		>150,000 h
Speed Sensor	4 pins			3 pins
 
You know better than to go by promo videos :)

There are a lot of other things in there such as the rad on the PCI-E slot and fan in the PSU area as well.
 
vsg28 said:
Not the easiest of graphs to follow, especially with no context in terms of other fans but I had to start somewhere!

Both noise level and airflow were measured 6" away from the fan and fan/radiator respectively. I'll get the same tests (and accordingly easier to follow multiple quantiy graphs also) done for the other 120/140mm fans I have here in the same conditions- a single 140mm rad would be very helpful here though as I am currently using an SR-1 560 :D
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vsg28 said:
PH-F140MP goes from 500-1600 rpm, as is the case with most 140mm fans. The only other 140mm fans I have are Cougar CF-V14HB, Gelid Wing 14, Corsair AF140, NB PK-2, NB PK-3. Maybe someone else can compare these against the Noctua/Thermaltake offerings but it only makes sense to do with for the 140mm fans with proper 140mm fan holes since these are meant for rads and used with others alongside.
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Are you taking the sound reading with fan on the SR-1 560? To me that would be the relevant sound level.

What is your ambient noise level and range of accuracy of your meter? I ask because mine is 30-130dBA and my ambinet is very close to 30dBA. Quietest times show graph of similar or slightly less flatline 30dBA with spikes bouncing to <33dBA.

I measure airflow almost against radiator / cooler .. and move it around some to find the most consistant flow level. I'm planning to make a flow tube with the end filled with straws to align airflow straight out. Tube will also be equipped with an inclined manometer built into it. ;)
 
doyll said:
Are you taking the sound reading with fan on the SR-1 560? To me that would be the relevant sound level.

What is your ambient noise level and range of accuracy of your meter? I ask because mine is 30-130dBA and my ambinet is very close to 30dBA. Quietest times show graph of similar or slightly less flatline 30dBA with spikes bouncing to <33dBA.

I measure airflow almost against radiator / cooler .. and move it around some to find the most consistant flow level. I'm planning to make a flow tube with the end filled with straws to align airflow straight out. Tube will also be equipped with an inclined manometer built into it. ;)
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Yeah with the fan on the rad. Sound was measured in a proper sound lab at my university in a fixed ambient (21 dBA) environment with a maneuverable probe.
 
vsg28 said:
Yeah with the fan on the rad. Sound was measured in a proper sound lab at my university in a fixed ambient (21 dBA) environment with a maneuverable probe.
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Sweet!
Must be nice to have access to great equipment. :D

FYI: The more or less standard for sound measurements of fans is 1 meter distance, but some use 30cm .. and others don't even say.
 
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doyll said:
Sweet!
Must be nice to have access to great equipment. :D

FYI: The more or less standard for sound measurements of fans is 1 meter distance, but some use 30cm .. and others don't even say.
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I know NB for example tests in an anechoic chamber with the probe a lot further away. I think Noctua does the same but not sure.
 
Guys,
a question....

Im planning on getting MO-RA3 420 rad. As u prolly know on each side u can put 9 * 140mm fans.(reason for this thread)

However u can get a mounting plate that allows u to use 4 * 230mm fans on each side.
Something like BitFenix Spectre PRO 230mm Fan - All White.

Do u think using mo-ra3 420 with 230mm fans instead of 140mm ones would have positive impact on temps while keeping the noise at the same/similar lvl?


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- Dimensions (mm): 230x200x30mm
- Current (A): 0.41A ±10%
- Speed (RPM): 900 RPM ±10%
- Air Flow (CFM): 156.27 CFM ±10%
- Air Pressure (mmH2O): 1.81 mmH2O
- Noise (dB-A): 25.6 dB(A)
 
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Indeed.
There are some very good 140mm fans now.

If 120mm was the best size for airflow performance helicopters would have a big frame full of them rather than their present rotor blades. :D
 
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I have a similar conundrum - I'm about to a Phanteks Enthoo Luxe and Corsair H110. I want fans for both the radiator and the case. I'm after quiet and was going to get loads of noctua A14.... but the colour.... Just wondering if there's anything similar enough acustically with the same performance but that looks nicer... I suppose there's the industrial ones, but those would only be useful for the radiator and overkill for the case. suggestions?
 
Mr Fujisawa said:
I have a similar conundrum - I'm about to a Phanteks Enthoo Luxe and Corsair H110. I want fans for both the radiator and the case. I'm after quiet and was going to get loads of noctua A14.... but the colour.... Just wondering if there's anything similar enough acustically with the same performance but that looks nicer... I suppose there's the industrial ones, but those would only be useful for the radiator and overkill for the case. suggestions?
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Use a good air cooler instead and cool just as well with less noise and expense.

Thermalright TY-147 (black housing & white fan)has good looks and performance at same rpm is almost identical to NF-A14 and A15 series fans
TY-141, 140 and 147 all perform the same. TY-143 is same up to 1300rpm, but just keeps going .. and going .. and going .. up to 2500rpm/130cfm.
TY-141143NH-A15ampNF-A14IPPCCFMdbaH2O_zpsdad013da.png


I have been told Thermalright was first to use this blade design. Problem is the TY-14x series of fans have 104.5mm mounting hole spacing (120mm fan), not 124.5mm spacing of 140mm fans .. but a simple plate adapter solves that .. problem is I have no idea where to find one .. but do know how to make them. :D
NF-A14A15ampTY-140seriesblade_zpsf5eb68aa.jpg
 
almighty15 said:
Arctic Cooling F12's with 140mm to 120mm fan adaptors.

there's no such thing as a good 140mm fan.
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This, mostly, these days you can get good 140mm fans, especially if your looking for case fans, however for radiators 120mm with shrouds is still the sweet spot because a £x 120mm will still bet a £x140mm.
 
A year ago 120mm were still king for radiators. But the 120mm to 140mm fan gap is closing quickly as availability of better fans is growing .. and we are seeing more and more 140mm radiators too.
 
Make said:
All these options are bad for radiators, CFM does not matter in this case, it is the static pressure that does. That's why the OP is asking for specific fans that are suited for this purpose.
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you have selected a bad fan also. 1.17 static pressure?

Noctua NF-A14 140mm has 4.18


the Corsair SP140 is not like the SP120 "Performance Series" which has 3.1
 
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