Caporegime
Self control is only a part of conquering addiction.
bet365 boss pays herself £265 MILLION
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no it's the whole point .. in my youth I was addicted to so many things ..from drugs to slots machines ..
I still am but I don't do it .. self control is everything .. never put yourself in that spot .. you know when it's going to happen .. so just walk away .. it is that simple
Ok well here we are guys, shut down all the addiction charities, rehab centers, they're all redundant, flea over here has solved the problem.
He has a point though, to not allow yourself to get into an addicted state in the first place. Everyone should be able to do that without a support network in place. The lack of responsibility for oneself and reliance on the state seems to be endemic in modern times. E.g. the thread on here recently where the poster was advised by his GP to stop smoking which he ignored and later developed COPD.
He was never suggesting or inferring anything like that.
I don't think we should allow an environment where the unscrupulous can prey on people with a weakness for gambling but there are far too many people who'll blame anything but themselves for their addiction and never take any responsibility or even try to take any control of it for themselves.
Is there a witch hunt or is it manufactured news?
I'm pretty left wing, and apart from the distasteful nature of her business, recognise that it's her money and she can pay herself whatever she wishes. It's not some kind of social injustice in and of itself, that she earns a lot of money.
But the news/"news" will run with these kinds of stories in the hope that they can manufacture some kind of outrage, and get some kind of snowball effect going on...
Heck the news can be really **** these days. Not as in "bad news", but as in "bad news coverage".
Yep, but then I speak of addiction as a disease with many faces, not just gambling. Yes I agree gambling should be better regulated but then what about alcohol, fags, coffee, and all the illegal stuff? Temptation is literally everywhere, the "just don't do it and you'll be fine" argument only applies to a tiny percentage of people.
I'm treading very carefully. I think I'm closer to any member has ever been to a permaban. I've been spoken to and the team made it very, very clear that I'm on the line. I'm a good boy now.
interesting article re gambling game loot boxes banned in Belgium and the Netherlands.
https://news.sky.com/story/video-game-loot-boxes-blamed-for-rise-in-young-problem-gamblers-11559402
https://news.sky.com/story/video-game-loot-boxes-blamed-for-rise-in-young-problem-gamblers-11559402
Caporegime
Who's a good boy? Who is? Yes you are. Yes you are a good boy!
Which mod rubbed your nose in it and told you you know what you've done?
Well. Put it this way, and this is me purely reading between the lines of the thread in FCD, if it were down to certain mods / admins I'd have been gone ages ago. I suspect my existence on this forum has been discussed in great detail and that (a) certain member(s) said I was a good chap as he'd met me in real life and vouched for me. I can fairly confidently say that I probably have the record for most warnings and still able to post. I won't mention the number, I'm above that (lol) but I should probably keep it at that number.
Tbh I only lay in to certain people, mainly because my opinions of them are so strong and I suffer idiots very poorly.
An' that's all I have to say about that.
Soldato
The trouble is nowadays that because people are so protected from everything, they essentially are not 'immunised' at a young age and have not developed an immune system to what is on offer so it affects people greater I think.
Before you'd have gamblers but with the advent of smart phones and the freedom that gives it has become an issue that's been burning in the background. I think people had a stronger mind some years ago about what was right and wrong, but those lines have been blurred.
I know what I'm trying to say but don't think I explained it that well.
Before you'd have gamblers but with the advent of smart phones and the freedom that gives it has become an issue that's been burning in the background. I think people had a stronger mind some years ago about what was right and wrong, but those lines have been blurred.
I know what I'm trying to say but don't think I explained it that well.
The end
Soldato
Greed. Pure and simple. Same with any CEO of any large company. Usually already millionaires but will stop at nothing, like reducing staff, staff bonuses and perks, etc, just so they can achieve their £1Mill bonus for saving the company money.
No one needs and extra £265Mill when you are already a billionaire.
No one needs and extra £265Mill when you are already a billionaire.
You're trying to say that every kid / adult with a phone has access to a casino, whereas in the good ol' days you had to go somewhere.
lol. you should probably read basic economics.
Soldato
Doesn't matter. I prefer morals.
so why are you on a pc and not building a school in Africa then?
re: gambling regulation - I'm in two minds about this - on one hand I'm a liberal and frankly I think the state certainly shouldn't interfere when a person genuinely wants to speculate on some future event. I mean it is rather silly, there are plenty of large companies in London that are centred around gambling, albeit they're gambling on the price of commodities or financial instruments rather than the number of goals a football team will score or which racehorse will win etc...
On the other hand there are some rather predatory businesses out there, it is one thing to say act as an intermediary in order to facilitate speculation, whether this be via hosting an exchange and collecting commission or running a book and collecting vig it is quite another to set up some machine in a betting shop in a poor area with an inbuilt -EV game that is pretty much intended to be addictive and to fleece money from the poorest in society. That side of the business can GTFO... I think perhaps the odd low stake fruit machine in a pub is about the limit for that stuff aside from big casinos aimed not at the poor but rather aimed at people who can perhaps better afford to lose and with stricter controls/rules re: obvious problem gamblers using slot machines.
Frankly that's all that counts IMO, if you're confident that you've not intentionally been an ass to someone or deliberately broken rules etc... then I wouldn't worry about it. I've had various suspensions/warnings over the years posting on here, swearing related stuff (like not noticing and then missing a swear word in some picture I posted), certain use of language that isn't necessarily swearing but that a mod decides isn't acceptable... they're big forums and some of this varies/depends on the mod that sees the post, the context, their subjective interpretation of it etc..etc.. can easily happen given this is text rather than face to face communication and the tone, intent etc.. isn't clear.
But aside from years ago directly calling someone an "idiot" after they unironically advocated homeopathy I've not (AFAIK) intentionally lashed out and insulted anyone, I'm not using the forums to promote a rival company or abuse people or intentionally break the rules so if someone were to permaban me because I've posted an image with a swear word in by mistake (I'm pretty careful with this now) or because I've posted a Daily Mail article in GD or because I've not been agreeable etc.. then meh... I've not intentionally broken the rules but it isn't my forum and if they want to take some action etc.. then that's up to them. Sometimes I'll point out my pov in FCD and argue the toss a bit (on a couple of occasions that actually worked) but otherwise it is time for a break either imposed or self enforced.
There are so many different people on here you're never going to please them all, there are conspiracy nutters with a very warped view of the world, there are some really bitter/angry individuals who seem to hold grudges or get really salty because you've taken a certain view on say Brexit or pretty much anything that doesn't fit their politics or world view - they can be slightly entertaining in a way as they inevitably don't stick to a discussion but instead attack the poster, throw in straw man arguments and you end up with multiple notifications that the current mr angry has yet again quoted your latest post in order to vent... but not actually bother with your arguments - while it perhaps isn't constructive to reply at that point it probably deserves a reply regardless! There are people who complain about threads that no one has forced them to read and that they ironically still seem to read and post in despite complaining about them, that I find bizarre given that anyone is free to create the sort of thread they'd like to see and if people want to reply to it then that thread stays up and not replying to the thread they don't like means it is more likely to move down the forum.
that is impressive
On the other hand there are some rather predatory businesses out there, it is one thing to say act as an intermediary in order to facilitate speculation, whether this be via hosting an exchange and collecting commission or running a book and collecting vig it is quite another to set up some machine in a betting shop in a poor area with an inbuilt -EV game that is pretty much intended to be addictive and to fleece money from the poorest in society. That side of the business can GTFO... I think perhaps the odd low stake fruit machine in a pub is about the limit for that stuff aside from big casinos aimed not at the poor but rather aimed at people who can perhaps better afford to lose and with stricter controls/rules re: obvious problem gamblers using slot machines.
Frankly that's all that counts IMO, if you're confident that you've not intentionally been an ass to someone or deliberately broken rules etc... then I wouldn't worry about it. I've had various suspensions/warnings over the years posting on here, swearing related stuff (like not noticing and then missing a swear word in some picture I posted), certain use of language that isn't necessarily swearing but that a mod decides isn't acceptable... they're big forums and some of this varies/depends on the mod that sees the post, the context, their subjective interpretation of it etc..etc.. can easily happen given this is text rather than face to face communication and the tone, intent etc.. isn't clear.
But aside from years ago directly calling someone an "idiot" after they unironically advocated homeopathy I've not (AFAIK) intentionally lashed out and insulted anyone, I'm not using the forums to promote a rival company or abuse people or intentionally break the rules so if someone were to permaban me because I've posted an image with a swear word in by mistake (I'm pretty careful with this now) or because I've posted a Daily Mail article in GD or because I've not been agreeable etc.. then meh... I've not intentionally broken the rules but it isn't my forum and if they want to take some action etc.. then that's up to them. Sometimes I'll point out my pov in FCD and argue the toss a bit (on a couple of occasions that actually worked) but otherwise it is time for a break either imposed or self enforced.
There are so many different people on here you're never going to please them all, there are conspiracy nutters with a very warped view of the world, there are some really bitter/angry individuals who seem to hold grudges or get really salty because you've taken a certain view on say Brexit or pretty much anything that doesn't fit their politics or world view - they can be slightly entertaining in a way as they inevitably don't stick to a discussion but instead attack the poster, throw in straw man arguments and you end up with multiple notifications that the current mr angry has yet again quoted your latest post in order to vent... but not actually bother with your arguments - while it perhaps isn't constructive to reply at that point it probably deserves a reply regardless! There are people who complain about threads that no one has forced them to read and that they ironically still seem to read and post in despite complaining about them, that I find bizarre given that anyone is free to create the sort of thread they'd like to see and if people want to reply to it then that thread stays up and not replying to the thread they don't like means it is more likely to move down the forum.
that is impressive
Soldato
Because I don't have a passport?