BF3 v BF4
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Meh i know
I have this really annoying habbit of going to far if its something i strongly believe!
Don't read IGN then
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I'm looking forward to this, enjoyed the demo and it's gotten me back into BF3. I hadn't played it for a while. What's the best pre-order deal at the mo?
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I actually agreed with most of what he was saying in that video.
Especially things like the PoV issues/head glitching, automatic player sounds, battlecorder/spectator mode, 3d spotting through smoke and also the suppression mechanic, which never really seemed to add anything beneficial to the game (I think maybe it was just too overdone).
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Great video, some excellent points. Most of his points should actually affect regular gameplay as well though. And some of his shooting in the last couple of minutes was incredible, hitting aircraft with rpg and tank shells.
It will only be played by the bargain bin bregade and those who got bought it as a present and cant afford another game.
BF4 shows how broken BF3 was, even in beta form, BF4 has many of the features which were simply omitted from 3. Even really simple stuff like, auto-kick/ban on 3 team kills is in 4. Why was it so hard to implement in 3 ?
Although I spend many happy hours with it, BF3 was and still is a broken game.
I am very exited about the new 'fairfight' anti-cheat middleware software in 4, and I can't wait to see it in action.
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Indeed, Jack actually attended I-series with us and was in our team which won 2nd place! Guy knows what he's talking about!
To tell the truth I was hyped more about the BFBC3 news than BF4. So many good times in BFBC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRYGGWms-T8
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Pretty much every single thing DICE improved/fixed in bf 4 is what I have been (and a few others) saying that they should have done from the moment bf 3 released but nope most people thought bf 3 was superb and brushed all the problems under the carpet so to speak and thought the points I listed were stupid and didn't fit in with the battlefield genre etc. Yet look at what the bf 4 beta was like and peoples opinions of it and how they view bf 3 now! 
Only a handful of things that I am not too fussed on i.e. the vehicle damage system etc.
The most annoying thing is the fact that DICE could have easily implemented a lot of those new features/changes in bf 3, but instead they wasted time tweaking weapons even when there was no need too and of course they want profit for the new game and to make it look like a improvement overall as lets face it if they did bring all those changes to bf 3, what would be the point of buying bf 4 other than for a few new maps, guns etc.?
Had to laugh at the whole blue filter **** that they had for bf 3 and what their response was when people were begging them to remove it and they were going to give us an option but then did a u turn and said "we like the artistic direction that we have taken with bf 3 and plan to use it for future games" so in other words behind closed doors...... "on seconds thoughts, people badly want this gone so lets give them another reason to buy bf 4"
And I would not be surprised if the exact same happens with bf 4 and bf 5..... TBH, I can't see them implementing battle recorder (didn't they say that this would be a feature @ e3???), that is a pretty damn big feature so they might want to save that for bf 5.
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I absolutely loved the beta for bf 4, however, I think my opinion might change slightly come the final version as we didn't get a true taste of the game, soooooo many weapons and gadgets were left out that could make the game worse or perhaps even better........ i.e. commander mode, ac130, mortar, claymores, other guns + other unlocks + the different types of grenades etc. etc.
The few things that I really liked about the beta that won't be the same in the final game:
- the way everyone had some unlocks from the get go so no one had a slight advantage over you i.e. flare situation for vehicles, such a joke in bf 3 and I knew many people who came to the game late and din't bother with aircraft since it was a PITA trying to get flares as you just have constant locks on and other aircraft firing missiles at you.....
- no jets + no ac130 (shanghai map will have the Ac130 but no jets afaik)
Not to mention we only had one map that was very well designed imo and for all we know, the other maps could be terrible.
Only a handful of things that I am not too fussed on i.e. the vehicle damage system etc.
The most annoying thing is the fact that DICE could have easily implemented a lot of those new features/changes in bf 3, but instead they wasted time tweaking weapons even when there was no need too and of course they want profit for the new game and to make it look like a improvement overall as lets face it if they did bring all those changes to bf 3, what would be the point of buying bf 4 other than for a few new maps, guns etc.?
Had to laugh at the whole blue filter **** that they had for bf 3 and what their response was when people were begging them to remove it and they were going to give us an option but then did a u turn and said "we like the artistic direction that we have taken with bf 3 and plan to use it for future games" so in other words behind closed doors...... "on seconds thoughts, people badly want this gone so lets give them another reason to buy bf 4"
And I would not be surprised if the exact same happens with bf 4 and bf 5..... TBH, I can't see them implementing battle recorder (didn't they say that this would be a feature @ e3???), that is a pretty damn big feature so they might want to save that for bf 5.
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I absolutely loved the beta for bf 4, however, I think my opinion might change slightly come the final version as we didn't get a true taste of the game, soooooo many weapons and gadgets were left out that could make the game worse or perhaps even better........ i.e. commander mode, ac130, mortar, claymores, other guns + other unlocks + the different types of grenades etc. etc.
The few things that I really liked about the beta that won't be the same in the final game:
- the way everyone had some unlocks from the get go so no one had a slight advantage over you i.e. flare situation for vehicles, such a joke in bf 3 and I knew many people who came to the game late and din't bother with aircraft since it was a PITA trying to get flares as you just have constant locks on and other aircraft firing missiles at you.....
- no jets + no ac130 (shanghai map will have the Ac130 but no jets afaik)
Not to mention we only had one map that was very well designed imo and for all we know, the other maps could be terrible.
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Yeah, Nexus your posts have been very informative, lets see what DICE can do now at the end of the month.
The B3 maps were too large in my opinion, like 4 games going on at once in different corners of the map, like Caspian Border. The tanks were powerless, the Jets ruled everything. The weapons felt 'tinny'. The Battlelog is awful, missing stats too.
Haha what else can I moan about.. but hope on B4.
The B3 maps were too large in my opinion, like 4 games going on at once in different corners of the map, like Caspian Border. The tanks were powerless, the Jets ruled everything. The weapons felt 'tinny'. The Battlelog is awful, missing stats too.
Haha what else can I moan about.. but hope on B4.
I do worry about the commander mode having too much influence on winning or losing. I just hope it's balanced enough.
Thanks
My problem(s) with the bf 3 maps:
- little to no cover from aircraft and combined with 3d spotting meant a good pilot+gunner in the heli or/and jet could rape infantry and ground vehicles easily
- found the majority of maps to look pretty similar and bland, how many maps were based on some oil refinery/warehouse place in the middle of nowhere.....
- terrible design for most maps especially when it came to rush mode.....
I personally thought caspian was one of the best maps.
Can't say I have noticed that problem with battlelog but then I hardly ever look at my battlelog reports, stats
But I much prefer the in game browser still! One thing I noticed with battlelog and finding servers is that quite a few servers don't always show up in the server list i.e. refresh once, see all the servers and then refresh again and there will be new servers that weren't there before 
TBH, given how team orientated this game is compared to BF 3 i.e. you have the points system so a team player is rewarded far more than a lone wolf who just goes for kills (good thing though!), VOIP etc. and this huge commander role, I fear that landslide wins will still be a big problem, more so than bf 3.
Still had the landslide wins in BF 4 beta, however, it didn't feel like you were getting trashed or steam rolling the other team, in bf 3 when it was a landslide win/lose, you could always tell!
The scope "glint" is a balancing mechanism that prevents recon class from sitting in one spot repeatedly camping a area and gives a visual indicator as to where the enemy is. Regardless of whether its liked or not, it certainly has an effect because every scope without exception hates it and every grunt thinks its great!.