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BF4 Retail CPU scaling measured

ALXAndy said:
Steamroller will not be some huge great thing that tramples on the Piledrivers. It's not happening on AM3+ meaning it isn't a balls out performance CPU. It's an 8 core APU, that should have enough grunt to mimic the consoles. It's also an attempt at lower power usage. So basically it's like a low clocked locked haswell I5, versus a 2011 set up.
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Well, Steamroller may come to AM3+. It's not a dead socket until AMD says it is. Kaveri is the Steamroller APU for FM2+, but I think it is unlikely to have 8 cores unless AMD releases a CPU-only version. It's possible we may not see any new 8 core CPUs for a while, but it seems to be missing out on a massive area considering the gaming potential with new engines.
 
If we look at the server roadmap Piledriver is still staying for high end 12 and 16 core servers(probably an MCM),but in an improved version called Warsaw but with better performance per watt.

So,I would suspect,we will find higher clocked versions of the current FX CPUs,with improved power consumption,ie,a new stepping for next year.

TBH,Intel is doing the same next year for desktop with Haswell still being the desktop performance part.

I expect AMD will bypass Steamroller for their 8 thread cores,and move onto Excavator in 2015,probably with a new socket and probably with DDR4 compatability.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
If we look at the server roadmap Piledriver is still staying for high end 12 and 16 core servers(probably an MCM),but in an improved version called Warsaw but with better performance per watt.

So,I would suspect,we will find higher clocked versions of the current FX CPUs,with improved power consumption,ie,a new stepping for next year.

TBH,Intel is doing the same next year for desktop with Haswell still being the desktop performance part.

I expect AMD will bypass Steamroller for their 8 thread cores,and move onto Excavator in 2015,probably with a new socket and probably with DDR4 compatability.
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Then there's that. Piledriver, in theory, cost AMD $0 to research and make. All they did was take their server CPU, jiggle it around a bit and make it smaller, then fit it in an AM3+ socket. That costs $0 to do, so anything you make is a bonus.

This is why they would be mad to discontinue it as it's basically losing money. Just keep making it, wait for the support, lower the prices, sell sell sell.

Intel are putting out big bucks to make a CPU that does everything an enthusiast doesn't want it to do. That's because the days of a desktop CPU are numbered (I.M.O) and they need somewhere else to make money from.

The brick wall has been hit by Intel. Size, heat.. None of which are much use to desktop owners. They'll keep up 2011 as they're just server rebrands that cost $0 and carry on as such IMO. Whatever the next one is? Skylake is it? will be absolutely useless for desktop overclockers.

Again, just my opinion, but they're becoming less enthusiast as the days go by.
 
Excavator is the next lot of cores from Steamroller.

Kaveri is the APU, it'll have Steamroller cores on FM2+, no L3 cache and upto 4 cores.

Then we'll have the 4/6/8 core L3 cache Steamroller cores on the successor to AM3+, however, there's noise of them scrapping it for excavator and going to a DDR4 platform (Which makes sense)or they could do the DDR2/DDR3 thing again, bring out a new socket, go for DDR3 release with Steamroller but then also have another socket out with DDR4 for excavator, excavator then could have two memory controllers.

Steamroller cores will be decently worked on from Piledriver, and a fair amount better, like I say, pegging it at lynnfield IPC with high clocking and no scaling drop offs due to the modular design, that'll be a brilliant CPU.
 
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ALXAndy said:
That's because there's just so much conflicting info flying around about it !

Some say APU, some say Excavator etc. Bloody nightmare.
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Steamroller is just the next architecture. Current APUs and FX CPUs use Piledriver, while the next APUs (Kaveri) will use Steamroller instead. There's nothing stopping AMD from launching new CPUs with Steamroller, but they've not announced anything.
 
teppic said:
Steamroller is just the next architecture. Current APUs and FX CPUs use Piledriver, while the next APUs (Kaveri) will use Steamroller instead. There's nothing stopping AMD from launching new CPUs with Steamroller, but they've not announced anything.
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Aye tight lipped buggers !
 
I think there's a bit too many R&D costs being presented as facts in this thread without any real basis.

cough cough.
 
funny thing is mates just gone this week from a 8320 clocked to 4.4 to a i5 3570k avg 10 fps better off in bf4 :D .
 
Quoting an Amd Marketing guy:

Steamroller Speculation

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I want to demystify the information. I am the user referred to on Overclock.net. Also the AMD official I spoke to is John Taylor. He is fairly high up the chain in marketing. My statements are near verbatim statements he made. He said there would be additional offerings for AM3+ , He said the 9000 FX series was among them. The new road map will be available in late October or at latest early November at the annual developers conference, which has been renamed the APU conference. That is basically the some total of what I was made privy to. No hype, no false claims, just more food for thought. I am patiently awaiting the new road map to see if steamroller will ever come to AM3+. If not whether AMD will have something better for enthusiasts than the 4 core Kaveri. Hopefully 6 or 8 cores. It should mostly be answered when the revised road map emerges.

So that sounds as though there's more life in AM3+ yet, the Apu 2013 conference in San Jose, California 11-13 November should be interesting, particularly Wednesday 13th with Johann Andersson from Dice and Mark Papermaster (is that for real lol ) CTO Amd. ;)
 
I don't really trust anything from AMD's marketing.
I bet they'd have been saying FM2 had life left in it.

We can wait and see, if and this is a big if they keep AM3+, they might bring out new chipsets and restrict Steamroller 8 cores to them (As they NEED to fix the baseline)

I've just had a lad on FB asking me about his AMD rig, he's running an FX8120 on a flipping entry level 30 quid AM3+ board and asking why it's performing poorly ; Throttling much!?
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I expect AMD will bypass Steamroller for their 8 thread cores,and move onto Excavator in 2015,probably with a new socket and probably with DDR4 compatability.
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This was my assumption too. I didn't want to wait around using a dual core intel for another ~18 months so I bit the bullet with the FX8320. As others have mentioned it is fun to clock and should handle most games for a while regardless of the heavily threaded and gaming comments banded about.
 
Someone please help me. That chart shows FX6300 running at great FPS. I have a GTX590, FX6300, and 6GB ram, and the game runs like garbage, often dropping to 15-20fps in intense situations. I've tried

1) Disabling Sli
2) Disabling 2 of the 6 cpu cores
3) Overclocking
4) Re-installing to a different hard drive

FX6300
GTX590
6Gb Ram
970 Extreme 3

And it's still the same, horrible cpu-bound performance. If I run at 1024x768 all low, still getting the same bad framerate.

Can't really play as its too frustrating.
 
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