Soldato
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Pretty much what 6th said, ignore the recommended PSI rating, get your desire sag then +/- psi for the right feel.
Ok here's one, sag - sat down in the saddle, or up on the pedals riding position, always different views on this but ill trust you guys more than the general person on the net.

I set the shock sag sitting down and the fork sag standing up the attack position. This way the rear is going to be stiffer for climbing, and the front more controlled for descending. That's my fuzzy logic, but I guess it depends on riding style and preference.
Very sexy indeed Andelusion!
What are the changes between the 2010 and 2011 frames? My LBS have a 2010 frame, but they wont budge much on the price.
Different colours and cable routing for an adjustable seat post.

So essentially nothing, get the LBS to budge on price!![]()

i think this is a site people in europe should look at before buying ANY BIKE...
canyon.com/google canyon bikes
I mean, they are insane, also the price is unbeatable from anywhere i seen, good reviews too![]()
They look like the sort of bike Decathlon sell, fine by any means, but nothing that has built a name for itself.
Very sexy indeed Andelusion!
What are the changes between the 2010 and 2011 frames? My LBS have a 2010 frame, but they wont budge much on the price.
How much?
Ive ordered mine through york cycle works, I attended a demo day at dalby forest so got 10% off, worked out at 1269 I think.
As mentioned the 2011 is in black, orange and polished, it has adjustable seatpost guides, you can fit a semi-integrated headset (as apposed to the integrated headset in the 2010 models - which you can't run an angleset in) and a slightly altered rear shock tune (very slightly apparently).
I went for the 2011 as I wanted the cable guides, to be honest the 2010 blue one is properly nice and I may end up wishing I went for that!
robj20 - you'll love the m4s, I have them f+r on my full sus (currently in bits), 203mm front, 180mm rear floating rotors. Bags of power, I'm about 14stone and they're as powerful as I could ever want with bags of modulation. I have Formula The Ones on my hardtail and to be honest I wish I'd just got some Hope X2s/another set of m4s.