*** Big Fat Weight Loss Thread ***

Soldato
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Last week, I have tried watching my calories and have ensured I have a calorie deficit of 500 - 800 everyday. I have even been on the exercise bike every other day for 45 mins. each time.
My weight has only yo-yoed between 74 and 75 kilos. (Target is 67 kilos)

This is absolute bs and clearly not working for me. I need to go back on my tried and tested lime water and two boiled eggs every three hours for that drastic weight loss.
1 week is not enough time for any sort of progress. How are you confirming you are in a 500-800 calorie deficit for sure, what are you using to track, are you 100% tracking everything, how are you setting your calorie level to know you're achieving 500-800 below etc.

My wife was the same, first week in she was calling BS on the process, now shes 8 weeks in 7lb down and starting to believe what ive been telling her for months.
 
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Has anyone gotten results from just this only eating within a certain window thing?
I don't do breakfast and generally wont eat until 1030/11am, if I can get my tea in before 1900 will it actually make any odds, I would have thought as long as I'm not banging the calories in and not eating too close to bed time I wouldn't expect it to make any odds?
 
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Has anyone gotten results from just this only eating within a certain window thing?
I don't do breakfast and generally wont eat until 1030/11am, if I can get my tea in before 1900 will it actually make any odds, I would have thought as long as I'm not banging the calories in and not eating too close to bed time I wouldn't expect it to make any odds?

It's something I started doing with keto and sort of kept up, even though I'm not trying. I just eat naturally between 0900-1700 now but I'm still counting calories. So I don't know whether it does anything or not. I sometimes get ravenous around 8pm but I am usually successful at riding it out with drinks of water and brushing my teeth.
 
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Has anyone gotten results from just this only eating within a certain window thing?
I don't do breakfast and generally wont eat until 1030/11am, if I can get my tea in before 1900 will it actually make any odds, I would have thought as long as I'm not banging the calories in and not eating too close to bed time I wouldn't expect it to make any odds?
You pretty much just described intermittent fasting 16:8 approach ;)
 
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Has anyone gotten results from just this only eating within a certain window thing?
I don't do breakfast and generally wont eat until 1030/11am, if I can get my tea in before 1900 will it actually make any odds, I would have thought as long as I'm not banging the calories in and not eating too close to bed time I wouldn't expect it to make any odds?
Like you say it's simply a way for people to manage their calorie intake as they have a shorter period to get them in and can therefore generally enjoy bigger more exciting meals than spreading low kcals out over a full normal day.

There may be some actual metabolic benefits to longer periods of no eating but from a pure weight loss view then it's just a way to calorie control.
 
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Ok, so that makes sense then, the theory being its a smaller window to fit stuff in.

First day of trying it and I was expecting tea at 1900, its now 2204 and food is just being cooked...
 
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1 week is not enough time for any sort of progress. How are you confirming you are in a 500-800 calorie deficit for sure, what are you using to track, are you 100% tracking everything, how are you setting your calorie level to know you're achieving 500-800 below etc.

My wife was the same, first week in she was calling BS on the process, now shes 8 weeks in 7lb down and starting to believe what ive been telling her for months.

I recorded the food I ate on an app called FatSecret on my phone.

I have gone back to my egg diet and have already seen results after two days.

Day 1 -
Weight : 74.2 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Snacks - 2 x Cadbury rounders
A cuppa of tea

Day 2 -
Weight : 73.3 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Snacks - 2 x Cadbury rounders
A cuppa of tea
An orange

Day 3 -
Weight : 72.8 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Two cups of tea
Dinner - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.

Loss after 2 days - 1.4 kg
 
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I recorded the food I ate on an app called FatSecret on my phone.

I have gone back to my egg diet and have already seen results after two days.

Day 1 -
Weight : 74.2 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Snacks - 2 x Cadbury rounders
A cuppa of tea

Day 2 -
Weight : 73.3 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Snacks - 2 x Cadbury rounders
A cuppa of tea
An orange

Day 3 -
Weight : 72.8 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Two cups of tea
Dinner - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.

Loss after 2 days - 1.4 kg
That seems quite severe to me, now long can you keep that up for? I’d struggle to do more than a day of that.
 
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I recorded the food I ate on an app called FatSecret on my phone.

I have gone back to my egg diet and have already seen results after two days.

Day 1 -
Weight : 74.2 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Snacks - 2 x Cadbury rounders
A cuppa of tea

Day 2 -
Weight : 73.3 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Snacks - 2 x Cadbury rounders
A cuppa of tea
An orange

Day 3 -
Weight : 72.8 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Two cups of tea
Dinner - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.

Loss after 2 days - 1.4 kg
Are you really only having 4 drinks per day? A litre of water weighs 1kg, it's no wonder you're losing weight if you're dehydrating yourself.
You need about 7700 calorie deficit to lose 1kg, and you can't do that (sensibly) over a couple of days.
 
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I've got no words, obviously you're going to lose weight on that.

Water/glycogen/little lean mass/little fat mass if all you're bothered about is what the number on the machine tells you every morning then it's a great diet.
 
Soldato
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I recorded the food I ate on an app called FatSecret on my phone.

I have gone back to my egg diet and have already seen results after two days.

Day 1 -
Weight : 74.2 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Snacks - 2 x Cadbury rounders
A cuppa of tea

Day 2 -
Weight : 73.3 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Snacks - 2 x Cadbury rounders
A cuppa of tea
An orange

Day 3 -
Weight : 72.8 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Two cups of tea
Dinner - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.

Loss after 2 days - 1.4 kg
I’m sorry but this is not a sustainable or healthy approach to dieting. Just running the numbers on this it’s max 1200 calories per day, and there is no way you are getting in sufficient nurtrients, vitamins, and fats that your body needs.

Fat loss isn’t about speed, you can’t put on multiple lb’s of fat in a day, so why expect to be losing it that quick? Really as others have said above you are likely mainly seeing such rapid weight drop on this approach because of water weight loss.

It takes -3500 to -5500 calories to burn 1 lb of fat, this number is based on and proven over and over again by science, and it’s why a -500 calorie deficit is suggested over a week to see a -1lb loss.

When you recorded your food on the app did you record everything? Had you set you base lines accurately to what your required calories were for maintenance / TDEE etc?

All of these things are very important.

Were you eating back burned calories from exercise as well before?
 
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Fellas, I did drink glasses of water as well. It's just that I didn't count or record it.

What I am thinking is this diet kick starts the metabolism again. Due to work, most of us restrict ourselves to just three meals a day.
I am loving that chicken sandwich though. Maybe I should experiment with chopped olives and tomatoes to make it tastier and healthier.
 
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Fellas, I did drink glasses of water as well. It's just that I didn't count or record it.

What I am thinking is this diet kick starts the metabolism again. Due to work, most of us restrict ourselves to just three meals a day.
I am loving that chicken sandwich though. Maybe I should experiment with chopped olives and tomatoes to make it tastier and healthier.

Maybe you should experiment with a sustainable form of diet?
Lack of sustainability is why the majority of diets fail, they are unrealistic, you feel like crap, or have no will power, and after a short time you break.
 
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Maybe you should experiment with a sustainable form of diet?
Lack of sustainability is why the majority of diets fail, they are unrealistic, you feel like crap, or have no will power, and after a short time you break.

Yes, that is the plan. This week, I am going to experiment with a chicken sandwich diet. Can't eat eggs forever!
 
Soldato
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I recorded the food I ate on an app called FatSecret on my phone.

I have gone back to my egg diet and have already seen results after two days.

Day 1 -
Weight : 74.2 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Snacks - 2 x Cadbury rounders
A cuppa of tea

Day 2 -
Weight : 73.3 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Snacks - 2 x Cadbury rounders
A cuppa of tea
An orange

Day 3 -
Weight : 72.8 kg
Breakfast - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
2 hours later - 1/4 lime squeezed in a glass of water and two boiled eggs.
Two cups of tea
Dinner - Chicken sandwich ( https://youtu.be/NqJtUVhAdNw ) , excluding the peppers.

Loss after 2 days - 1.4 kg

100% this has to be a wind up...

This is not healthy/sustainable or sensible - Never seen such a ridiculous "diet" in my life.
 
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Found the best diet, weighed myself on Friday at 97.6kg, weighed myself yesterday at 93.2kg.

Only difference was that i did a 50 mile ultra on Saturday so definitely not sustainable. Today i'm back to 95kg, but the aim is to make a proper effort from now. My poor performance on Saturday has given me a bit of a kick up the bum to get back to training better.
 
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Found the best diet, weighed myself on Friday at 97.6kg, weighed myself yesterday at 93.2kg.

Only difference was that i did a 50 mile ultra on Saturday so definitely not sustainable. Today i'm back to 95kg, but the aim is to make a proper effort from now. My poor performance on Saturday has given me a bit of a kick up the bum to get back to training better.

Update, still seem to be holding at 94.5kg as of this morning so i'm taking that as a positive as any correction should've happened by now.

Also feel like i've kept motivation up after the event which usually sees a big dropoff for me. I ran Monday and Yesterday. Bit of weights Tuesday and a Zwift session last night. Feeling good :)
 
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Hi all! I've come with the dreaded question that is no doubt asked constantly...but I'm currently on a bit of a weight loss journey, 6'3 and 105kg, it is almost entirely centred around my stomach annoyingly however my build around it is relatively average shall we say - I absolutely want to keep losing weight but I would like to start at the gym as well with a very simple goal of just refining my body shape, slightly bigger arms, toned stomach as the weight reduces etc so I'm not looking for anything out landish at all.

Now I know traditionally to build muscle you have to be in a calorie surplus which is counter intuitive, but given my modest goals is there any kind of workout regime that would see me develop modest gains, tightening up the areas that could do with it as I lose the weight? Any advice would be greatly appreciated as honestly everything online is centred around becoming a bodybuilder, something I have absolutely no interest in doing.

Thank you :)
 
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