Big Tech Authoritarianism
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He emphasized "peacefully" in his tweets. His tweets are also nothing compared to the actual call for violence during the riots. Literally anything can be interpreted as a call for violence.
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Why should a private company allow a demagogue to run rampant with deception and lies their on their platform. 
Why are people getting so worked up about defending the free speech (misplaced in itself) of someone (one of the most powerful and influential people in the world) who doesn't defend free speech himself?
The whole "fake news" thing is about deplatforming rational discussion by dismissing it as "fake news" when doesn't fit Trumps agenda. That's the antithesis of fostering free speech. Anyone defending his right to express his "views" would do well to remember that.
He's reaped what he's sown.
The whole "fake news" thing is about deplatforming rational discussion by dismissing it as "fake news" when doesn't fit Trumps agenda. That's the antithesis of fostering free speech. Anyone defending his right to express his "views" would do well to remember that.
He's reaped what he's sown.
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Censoring people is not the right way. It has never been the right way and considering the power these companies have these days they really should not be free of scrutiny when it comes to free speech. When you are reaching hundreds of millions of people or even billions in the case of facebook you shouldn't be allowed to ban points of view that you don't like or agree with.
Trump is a complete **** but he has the same rights to say what he wants as anyone else. I think a lot of woke politics is hugely damaging to people and society as a whole but I don't want their voices silenced or driven off popular media platforms. Both the left and the right talk a hell of a lot of **** about the same issues and different issues but one side is heavily criticised and moderated and the other is allowed almost complete freedom.
How would people feel if twitter and facebook were owned by right leaning groups that used it to shut down the left.
I think twitter did the right thing with fact checking. The law can deal with Trump if he is found to have been inciting violence or breaking the law.
Its also massively cowardly from these companies.
Has anyone noticed how world leaders and these social media platforms are suddenly willing to stand up to Trump and tell him hes being a ****? Funny they have only just started doing it once its become clear that he isn't going to somehow retain the presidency. Its pathetic. Its exactly the same as the world gently chiding China for their human right abuses and general abuse of their power but not actually doing anything to stop them.
Trump is a complete **** but he has the same rights to say what he wants as anyone else. I think a lot of woke politics is hugely damaging to people and society as a whole but I don't want their voices silenced or driven off popular media platforms. Both the left and the right talk a hell of a lot of **** about the same issues and different issues but one side is heavily criticised and moderated and the other is allowed almost complete freedom.
How would people feel if twitter and facebook were owned by right leaning groups that used it to shut down the left.
I think twitter did the right thing with fact checking. The law can deal with Trump if he is found to have been inciting violence or breaking the law.
Its also massively cowardly from these companies.
Has anyone noticed how world leaders and these social media platforms are suddenly willing to stand up to Trump and tell him hes being a ****? Funny they have only just started doing it once its become clear that he isn't going to somehow retain the presidency. Its pathetic. Its exactly the same as the world gently chiding China for their human right abuses and general abuse of their power but not actually doing anything to stop them.
you reckon twitter and facebook are run by "left leaning groups" that are using it to "shut down the right"?
C'mon. Get real.
Trump (as a political figure) isn't ideologically right or left either. His personal politics are largely irrelevant. That he's courted the right in order to gain power doesn't change that. Trump is pro-Trump. Nothing else. He's a con man.
I think the biggest problem we have nowadays is the extent of political polarisation means 'fact checking' is a nonsense - the population being played to have been taught/conditioned that facts that disagree with them are to be dismissed as fake.
Marking out Trump's claims as potentially misleading for weeks on end seemingly did little to nothing to prevent an angry group who believed him regardless from forming and violently trying to disrupt the democratic processes of their nation.
Merely 'fact checking' failed so what's left?
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These are not "points of view" they are outright lies and brainwashing.
These two post contibuted nothing to the discussion. No opinion. No information. No thought.
You just merely here to state that the the group who you consider oppsoite to yours is s dim-witted. This does not help anybody. This is not interesting to read for anybody. If you want an echo chamber that will insult those who you consider different to your political leaning then go on reddit and post memes and the great thing about reddit you can find an eco chamber for any view you might have, left, right middle, up, down, so you will feel at home.
It is possible to live without Twitter/FB et al. We did it 15 years ago. It's just they are very skilled at hooking people on it as if it's life or death. It's abuse of power to make them rich and seem significant. It all started off as a novelty, a bit of fun, a convenient way to communicate and now as usual it's about being in the clique, if your not in then you don't have a life. They've truly hijacked the US political system.
Same thing would have been said about mass print, radio and TV.
The problem with your type of attitude is it means more people will die and more violence and insurrection will happen. You are effectively calling them massively cowardly because they are responding and trying to reduce the amount of people being killed. This isn't just some light trolling, people are dying and causing riots and insurrection.
People where scared to stand up to Trump before because of what he did to people who did stand up to him. You cannot blame them for not standing up before as Trump would issue orders banning those companies from from operating then demand they get sold to another company. Its only now that threat has gone the companies are daring to stand up.
Your standing there calling them pathetic because they are trying to keep operating and safeguarding 1000's of employees who would otherwise lose jobs. Would you still call them pathetic if a company you worked for stood up and you lost your job because of that? Personally I think its your attitude that is pathetic not the other companies.
Caporegime
So is a lot of what other people say. Both sides were lying about Brexit. The problem is when one sides lies are allowed and the other side is not.
Its what people do when they are incapable of attacking the idea so they attack the person. Its much easier to decide that someone is a caraciture of everything you dislike rather than accept that people usually don't sit in a perfect box that encapsualtes all their views in a political group.
Drives a mild merc and thinks he's somehow better than everybody. Could it get any more cliche?
Caporegime
He has been in power for 4 years. They have done nothing until they were safe from repercussions. How is that not cowardly? As far as I know, 4 people died in the recent invasion of the capitol. How many died during the violence at the peak of BLM? What about the witch hunts that twitter allows that ruin peoples lives who fall foul of the twitter mob? Is that OK? Its only careers and lives and families that are being ruined there? Maybe they deserve it?
Yeah, cowardly. He wasn't going to shut them down. Maybe their stock price drops a few points. Thats how little these companies care about their supposed morals. What companies has he split up because they stood up to him? The only company that I know of that he was getting involved in was TikTok and that wasn't anything to do with anti-trump behaviour or comments. I know some people think that Trump is evil and now that Biden is in power things will be way better but they won't, America will still be 99% run by corporations and their lobbyists. Corrupt politicians etc. That does far more damage than anything Trump is directly involved in. That **** affects millions and millions in the US and abroad.
They aren't scared of being shut down, they are scared of their value going down. Just an aside but a company like facebook could halve their profit and still double their work force without worrying about money. Its all greed and profit. They have morals unless it affects their bottom line. Maybe you are right though, maybe coke etc who all spoke out in support of BLM do have a strong moral compass and really believe in these issues. Maybe they don't cripple communities by essentially stealing their water, maybe they don't use sweatshops and child labour to make their products.
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Other people did not used to be president. Trying to rewrite history with the alt-fact "both sides lied" is weak.
