Big Tech Authoritarianism

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Donald Trump, the still President of the United States of America has been censored by Twitter, a corporation elected by nobody and along with corporate media who clearly hate him that now means he cannot talk directly to the American people who elected him.

A group of people cry that he is a fascist, but he was Democratically elected, didn't start any wars, abolish future elections and/or make himself dictator for life. He defended the US constitution from those who seeked to take away peoples right to bear arms, not something a tyrant does.

Those decrying him as a fascist are cheering on the censorship and algorithms that social media employs to boost the outreach of some users (corporate media etc) whilst suppressing, censoring or banning other ideas. Big tech censorship and banning is not a new thing, they've just never been so emboldened as to do it to a sitting US President before.

Now for all those cheering it on and who think it is fighting fascism or whatever, I would like to share a few quotes from a school grade text book on the Nazi's:

Goebbels controlled the media and arts, making sure that Germans were fed Nazi ideology while censoring other information.

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Any media that conveyed anti-Nazi ideas or even other ways of life, were censored. Censorship of newspapers, radio, cinema and the theatre was enforced. Only books which agreed with the Nazi point of view were allowed.

Are we not being lead in that direction by those claiming to be fighting Fascism? who tore down historical statues? who bans books/users and all manner of things that don't agree with their point of view (deemed to be 'offensive')? who is trying to disarm the population?

Why do people who believe to be fighting authoritarianism/fascism or whatever cheer on billionaire corporation owners who in unison now act like them?
 
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I don’t agree or disagree with any position but everyone should be able to voice theirs and everyone should be able to read and understand any opinion or fact.

It is truly disturbing.

1984 was meant to be fiction
 
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I mean, given that it involves your Messiah, it comes as no surprise whatsoever that you lack the comprehension skills to see why this was done, so here's your usual video:


It'll also be interesting to see if you actually engage in a conversation or just post'n'run as always.
 
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I think the truth lies somewhere in between - there is certainly too much agenda lead censorship taking hold in big tech and media but there is plenty of legit reasons to censor some of the latest stuff from Trump as well.
 
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President or not he's not owed a platform on a private enterprises back.

44 Presidents before him managed getting their message to the people using other means just fine.
 
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He can't talk directly to the people that elected him because Twitter banned him? Is he banned from giving news conferences?

Banning him on Twitter is hopefully the start of a downfall that eventually leaves him rotting in jail for the rest of his life. He's absolute scum.
 
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I don’t agree or disagree with any position but everyone should be able to voice theirs and everyone should be able to read and understand any opinion or fact.

It is truly disturbing.

1984 was meant to be fiction


The problem is that his tweets are too divisive, that being considered, I actually agree with him being banned. Four people have lost their lives as a result of his actions.

Also, it's a private company, if they don't want him on there then ban away, that's how business works.
 
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Until one day the shoe is on the other foot, then you'll be whining like the best of them "OMG this is so ******* wrong whaaaaaaa!!"

Lies are lies, whichever "side" puts them out, they can all be banned from distributing their fake news.

Fake news made Trump, it defined his propaganda lead lie of a presidency, it also created the recent insurrection.
Fake news made Brexit.
Fake news made BoJo.

All needs banning and policing.

This thread wont last either. :p
 
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Lies are lies, whichever "side" puts them out, they can all be banned from distributing their fake news.

Fake news made Trump, it defined his propaganda lead lie of a presidency, it also created the recent insurrection.
Fake news made Brexit.
Fake news made BoJo.

All needs banning and policing.

This thread wont last either. :p

Until the guy you support gets banned, it'll hit you like a brick wall
 
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President or not he's not owed a platform on a private enterprises back.

44 Presidents before him managed getting their message to the people using other means just fine.

Indeed.

He has to abide by terms/policy of a private companies service same as anyone else and they have the right to scrutinise and ditch him.
The White House account is still up and he’s free to make statements to the press like many presidents before him.
 
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Funny how people always use strawman arguments that completely fall down when you actually look at the detail.

Goebbels actively peddled Nazi propaganda, Twitter is stopping Trump from peddling factually incorrect propaganda (that the election was stolen) that resulted in his supporters storming a building with the aim of stopping a democratic process. I.e. Twitter aren't comparable to Goebbels at all.

If you're a fan of free speech at any cost, do you support platforms allowing extremist Muslims to promote Jihad? Free speech does have consequences and there has to be some moderation as otherwise it can be dangerous.
 
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Until one day the shoe is on the other foot, then you'll be whining like the best of them "OMG this is so ******* wrong whaaaaaaa!!"

People have died as a result of this man.

That's where the conversation should end really.

Also this:

President or not he's not owed a platform on a private enterprises back.

44 Presidents before him managed getting their message to the people using other means just fine.
 
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Donald Trump, the still President of the United States of America has been censored by Twitter, a corporation elected by nobody and along with corporate media who clearly hate him that now means he cannot talk directly to the American people who elected him.

A group of people cry that he is a fascist, but he was Democratically elected, didn't start any wars, abolish future elections and/or make himself dictator for life. He defended the US constitution from those who seeked to take away peoples right to bear arms, not something a tyrant does.

Those decrying him as a fascist are cheering on the censorship and algorithms that social media employs to boost the outreach of some users (corporate media etc) whilst suppressing, censoring or banning other ideas. Big tech censorship and banning is not a new thing, they've just never been so emboldened as to do it to a sitting US President before.

Now for all those cheering it on and who think it is fighting fascism or whatever, I would like to share a few quotes from a school grade text book on the Nazi's:



Are we not being lead in that direction by those claiming to be fighting Fascism? who tore down historical statues? who bans books/users and all manner of things that don't agree with their point of view (deemed to be 'offensive')? who is trying to disarm the population?

Why do people who believe to be fighting authoritarianism/fascism or whatever cheer on billionaire corporation owners who in unison now act like them?
We are calling him a fascist because he is. Anything Trump doesn’t agree with he calls fakenews even if it’s true, anything Trump thinks that goes against him even if true he tries to cancel, Trump did try to override and undermined a Democratically elected election, Trump caused insurrection and got people killed when it failed, Trump war mongered increasing drone strikes over 400% and removed oversight on strikes along with and assassinations of government nationals whose nations have requested Interpol to put out a terrorist alerts for Trump.

Right now Trump is the biggest dealer of cancel culture and fascism in the West. Your quote on fascism is precisely what Trump tried to do. Trump tried to make any news that did not follow his party line fakenews. Any news media spreading truth that Trump didn’t like he attacked none stop.

Trump tried to cancel everyone who disagreed with him or his party line just like tyrant do.


“Why do people who believe to be fighting authoritarianism/fascism or whatever cheer on billionaire corporation owners who in unison now act like them?”
We are not cheering on billionaire corporation owners, we are fighting the authoritarianism/fascism caused by billionaire corporation owners like Trump.


“Donald Trump, the still President of the United States of America has been censored by Twitter, a corporation elected by nobody and along with corporate media who clearly hate him that now means he cannot talk directly to the American people who elected him.”
The people de-elected him and he can still talk to the American people. What Trump doesn’t have the right to do is spread lies, misinformation and insurrection. How has Twitter stopped Trump from doing a press conference and broadcasting it to the American people. They haven’t. All twitter have done is stop Trump from spreading more insurrection and fascism on there platform andthey have a right on there own platform.

Lastly Trump seeked to rip up the US constitution and wanted power for his family with The Trumps running the US for decades to come. Just like a fascism tyrant.

The problem is people like you @mmj_uk are brainwashed and cannot open your eyes to the truth. You fall big time for Trumps propaganda and now it is all falling apart you cannot process it and don't seem to realize you fall hook, line, and sinker from his propaganda.
 
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