'Biggest data grab' in NHS history - links to opt out.

SexyGreyFox said:
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I already get the records for the Police concerning certain patients.
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In a blog published last week, Dr Byrne said the bill imposes a duty on clinical groups in the NHS to disclose information to police without breaching any obligation of patient confidentiality.
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I guess that they mean the Police would be able to use the medical records as unfettered evidence for leverage in a prosecution?
 
Ice Tea said:
I guess that they mean the Police would be able to use the medical records as unfettered evidence for leverage in a prosecution?
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A couple of months ago they wanted records and a Clinicians report whether a person was capable of picking another person up. The clinician said their mobility issues made it very doubtful and he walked from court.
This time it worked in the patients favour.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
A couple of months ago they wanted records and a Clinicians report whether a person was capable of picking another person up. The clinician said their mobility issues made it very doubtful and he walked from court.
This time it worked in the patients favour.
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I’m interested, was that done with a court order? Or just a request from police? Was any consent from patient gained?
 
heeeed said:
I’m interested, was that done with a court order? Or just a request from police? Was any consent from patient gained?
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I've just been told with that particular case there would a Court Order and a Form of Authority from the patient.
The only time it can be overruled is if the patient is an 'Imminent Threat to Society' or something like that.
 
Tone1979 said:
What if over time this info got into the hands of private health insurance companies and at some point you require private health insurance and the information on your record impacts your quote, then yeah I would be bothered by it. I don't want my personal details getting into the hands of private companies and if you think that's not likely to happen at some point, you're way too trusting. These transfers of data take years to filter down to avoid breaking the law.
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It's anonymised isn't it?

Also I think you're wildly overestimating what a private health insurer is going to do to covertly gather information on you.

When you know they just ask you?
And if you lie you're ****ed later like your car insurance.

Are you thinking it's like insurance company is going to complie a huge data base of potential but not yet clients, then when you apply go "ahh we see 10 years ago you had a heart attack so we increase your quote by 10%"? As opposed to you apply and they say "please state any previous conditions such as heart attacks" and you will be able to lie?

Then make a claim they investigate and you'll have signed that they can access your records inthe case of a claim and they won't just go "oh look you never told us about this heart attack, no payout for you".

Car insurance doesn't go around snooping to find your convictions before a quote they just straight up ask you and then will check later if you ever make big enough claim
 
NHS Digital's demise bad for 55 million patients' privacy

https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/nhs_digital_privacy_bmj_article

Ten months after attempts first began to extract the medical information of 55 million citizens in England, NHS Digital's former chairman is warning the merger of the agency with NHS England threatens the privacy of people's personal data.
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The view was that if a patient had chosen to use the NHS they had implicitly agreed that their data could be used for the benefit of the NHS
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https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/23/uk_government_gp_data/

Concerns are being raised over UK government proposals to extend emergency powers introduced during the pandemic, giving it access to patient data held by general practitioners (GPs).

The government has decided to put in place a plan "omitting the expiry date contained within" emergency COVID powers and "to make a consequential amendment to the review provision", with the aim of "establishing and operating information systems to collect and analyse data in connection with COVID-19."
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How convenient. :)
 
Ice Tea said:
www.bbc.co.uk

NHS 111 software outage confirmed as cyber-attack

The problems are reported to have impacted referrals from the NHS 111 helpline to out-of-hours GPs.
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NHS IT supplier held to ransom by hackers

Its IT provider says it may take three or four weeks to fully recover from the cyber-attack.
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It's shocking.

My Mum had some skin samples from her leg that the nurses were sending off to the lab. We only found out weeks after that nothing was happening because the nurses were waiting for the GP's to suggest treatment. But the GP's couldn't access the lab results.

This country is going backwards due to stupidity.
 
Delvis said:
Have they upgraded to Win7 yet?
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Mine was upgraded to Win 10 around October last year and I was one of the last ones.
It's sitting on my dining table :)

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BowdonUK said:
It's shocking.

My Mum had some skin samples from her leg that the nurses were sending off to the lab. We only found out weeks after that nothing was happening because the nurses were waiting for the GP's to suggest treatment. But the GP's couldn't access the lab results.

This country is going backwards due to stupidity.
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I had one issue where my GP had made a referral but apparently, it was to some old e-mail the department didn't use anymore or something (but which apparently hadn't been updated on some site the GP used) I'd turned up in the hospital at the reception desk to check as my GP was adamant the referral had been made, the first person I spoke to at the desk gave me an updated address to use and was going to send me back to the GP with it... like WTF, I'd been waiting weeks at that point a new referal would put me to the back of the queue again.
I pointed out that the referral had been made and surely they only had like 2-3 weeks left to get me an appointment before they hit their 18-week target and I'd like to make a complaint if they can't sort out an appointment by then. Some other admin person overheard and jumped in, magically an appointment appeared that they could book for me within a couple of days.

Those sorts of targets and penalties etc.. do seem to be necessary - I'd have been fobbed off by some admin person who couldn't care less and coulnd't be bothered to do anything proactive otherwise.
 
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