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2014 R8 V10 with a manual gearbox, great car to drive but literally never get any clear roads to drive it properly.

That's the thing the roads in the UK are in bad shape (around my area anyway), but there's lots of tracks around the UK. :p

I still stand for the car = a practical tool, I mean look at this...

I was quite surprised, I thought the R35 would destroy that ZX10-R :p
 
Yeah I'd rather buy another bike than sink money into twin turbos and supporting mods :p
As they won't fix the issue of coming up behind people and getting stuck without an opportunity to pass.
 
The thing with cars is, you've more room for mistakes than you do with a bike. I always seem to push a car more than I do a bike, could be because I've more experience behind a wheel instead of handlebars. :p
 
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Exactly the reason I love v-twins - you get ALL the torque and acceleration from 4000 rpm rather than 10000 rpm on a litre IL4. Of course IL4's are smoother, better for town traffic etc, but twins are just more fun at 'normal' speeds (rather than licence losing speeds on an IL4).

I would have said the same before getting my S1000XR. My previous bike was a 1200 v twin (Aprilia). The myth that you need to be at 10,000 rpm on this particular engine is completely false.
 
I would have said the same before getting my S1000XR. My previous bike was a 1200 v twin (Aprilia). The myth that you need to be at 10,000 rpm on this particular engine is completely false.

True, litre IL4's do have a far amount of low down torque, but they do encourage you to rev them, don't they ;)

Baron's test ride of shows it perfectly - you don't need to rev it to the redline, but that's where all the exitement is, up there when the needle starts flying round. V-twins have the excitement at much lower revs and therefore you're not doing highly illegal speeds to have 'fun'.

Ridingwithtom explains it well when he test rode a multistrada, and compared it to his S1000RR https://youtu.be/RqR67Rug9B8?t=4m58s
 
True, litre IL4's do have a far amount of low down torque, but they do encourage you to rev them, don't they ;)

Baron's test ride of shows it perfectly - you don't need to rev it to the redline, but that's where all the exitement is, up there when the needle starts flying round. V-twins have the excitement at much lower revs and therefore you're not doing highly illegal speeds to have 'fun'.

Ridingwithtom explains it well when he test rode a multistrada, and compared it to his S1000RR https://youtu.be/RqR67Rug9B8?t=4m58s

I think that's partly right but the part about rev range and legal speeds is also a myth for me. You're just as likely to hit illegal speeds in the fun rev range of a v twin, even though the sweet spot is at lower revs. You just use more gears.

There are different engine characteristics for sure, but just as much of it is down to personal taste on where you feel comfortable. V twins have a more accessible rev range for sure, and I'm sure that few inline 4 riders regularly spend much time in the top 4,000 rpm. There's a trade off for that accessibility though, as you point out. The low rev lumpiness of a big v twin is horrible, and the useable rev range is actually quite narrow. My Aprilia had to be constantly feathered below 30 mph if I didn't want to be jerked around (although this is as much to do with fuelling and EU emissions as it is with the engine itself), the 2013 Multi was the same and even the 2015 Multi was inconsistently uncomfortable when I rode it.
 
Seriously considering selling my car and buying two more bikes and something that can pull a trailer (old Subaru again!).

Keep the 899 or trade for a 1299S as the fun weekend/bike meet road bike, R1 stripped down with track fairings as the track bike and something like a S1000XR or Superduke GT as a daily rather than sitting in traffic in my car!

The biking bug bites hard right?

This is a problem i have found myself with over the last year or so. I've always been into nice cars but needed a car that can tow some bikes to enable me to tow a track bike etc.

So i sold up my cars bought a boring Mazda 3 sport diesel which i now use for that and also as a daily. But I missed having a nice car again over those long winter months when i don't ride, so have just got a BMW M3.. so now 2 cars and 2 bikes. It gets expensive! :( but at least i should be covered for all uses.
 
The thing with cars is, you've more room for mistakes than you do with a bike. I always seem to push a car more than I do a bike, could be because I've more experience behind a wheel instead of handlebars. :p

The one thing I miss about cars while on the bike is being able to chuck it into a roundabout knowing you can't really go wrong :p
 
My old Golf GT TDI makes a great car to have along side a Bike, 5 door so it does me for size & it's uber cheap to run & does everything I need it to even Tip runs.

MOT day today, My bloke died of Cancer so I'm the same as everybody else now I just have to put my bits out on the desk & see how hard he hits them. :(

Weather suxs at the mo an all, 16mph winds & that real fine rain, Sods law I s'pose.
 
Picked up a belly pan this morning for £45 large patch of road rash right on the nose of it but the sides which you'll actually see are all fine and it's inevitable anyway so I'd have only gotten annoyed if I'd splashed nearly £200 on one then it happened.
 
I saw that belly pan, but for 15 quid more I'll have a brand new painted in the same colour as my SV. :D I just have to wait till summer... :(
 
Looked a pretty good colour match to the K5 he had it on so hopefully it'll look alright on mine, worst comes to worst I could probably flip it straight back onto eBay and get back more than I paid.
 
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