Bill from FedEx?

Which is total crap and shows how you shouldn't trust armchair lawyers. Ignoring whether that act applies to express courier services:

Interfering with the mail: postal operators.

(1)A person who is engaged in the business of a postal operator commits an offence if, contrary to his duty and without reasonable excuse, he—

(a)intentionally delays or opens a postal packet in the course of its transmission by post, or

(b)intentionally opens a mail-bag.


Now, taxation is a valid reason to delay, as is opening to check for prohibited or restricted items.

Then we have:

(3)Subsection (1) does not apply to the delaying or opening of a postal packet in accordance with any terms and conditions applicable to its transmission by post.

All couriers have taxes and duties as part of their T&Cs.

i was very dubious to be honest but thought id mention it :)
 
*sigh* Guess I dont have a choice, other than coughing up the cash.

Err, just ignore them. It has happened to me once. Got a card for a parcel in the post from overseas. Went, paid and collected it. Then a couple of weeks later I get this similar invoice for some charges.

Chucked it in the bin, never heard from them again.

You never agreed to them handling anything on your behalf, you have received your parcel. You don't owe them anything.
 
Mainly because it would be a nightmare not to.

Not really. Lots of other courier companies insist of the charges paid first before delivery. They ring us up and ask for payment over the phone via card. No payment = no delivery.

It's good that some companies will pay on your behalf and collect later.
 
What was the item you ordered?

If you can claim it was a gift I think that might be tax free? Also, if blizzard are sending you stuff why wouldnt it have come from within the EU?

Because it was merchandise ordered from their Blizzcon presale. It was only available through the US store.

I take it they dont impose these charges on all parcels? I got something else from the states a little while before the Blizzard stuff and never got any customs charge for that package.
 
Because it was merchandise ordered from their Blizzcon presale. It was only available through the US store.

I take it they dont impose these charges on all parcels? I got something else from the states a little while before the Blizzard stuff and never got any customs charge for that package.

Pot luck sometimes and depends on the courier. If under £18 then there is no charge.

I used to order laods of dvd stuff from the states in the early days before streaming and you used to get them cheaper and sometimes on dvd before they were even at the cinema over here. Sometimes I would get hit for the duty and vat, other times I would get no charge. I always bought assuming I would get charged so it was a bonus when I didn't.

It used to bug me though that quite often the charge the courier made for collecting the fees was way more than the vat and duty combined.
 
It used to bug me though that quite often the charge the courier made for collecting the fees was way more than the vat and duty combined.

they do apply a handling fee but then i guess you have to think they werent getting paid for the initial delivery (especially say parcelforce who seem to pick up US international mail) so they have to get back fuel and other delivery costs some how?
 
Err, just ignore them. It has happened to me once. Got a card for a parcel in the post from overseas. Went, paid and collected it. Then a couple of weeks later I get this similar invoice for some charges.

Chucked it in the bin, never heard from them again.

You never agreed to them handling anything on your behalf, you have received your parcel. You don't owe them anything.

Chances are them paying the custom fee's and charging you will be in the T&C's of using them.
 
Chances are them paying the custom fee's and charging you will be in the T&C's of using them.

Which may be irrelevant as the OP (or myself when it happened to me) had not chosen to use them, therefore never agreed to their T&Cs. Accepting a delivery from them does not mean you agree to retrospective charges that are not explicitly described upfront at the time of delivery.
 
Which may be irrelevant as the OP (or myself when it happened to me) had not chosen to use them, therefore never agreed to their T&Cs. Accepting a delivery from them does not mean you agree to retrospective charges that are not explicitly described upfront at the time of delivery.

However the retailer you bought them from will almost certainly have something similar to the following in their T&C
"If you are outside of (country of retailer), additional charges may be required by customs, by using our service you agree to them".

You agree to the T&C of the retailer, who will almost always warn in their T&C that additional fees may be payable if you're importing to a different country.

For example
Blizzard store FAQ said:
You are responsible for any applicable tarifs and/or taxes associated with your order, and may be required to pay additional charges on delivery.

Valve store said:
NOTICE INTERNATIONAL ORDERS: Your order may be subject to additional Import/Duty Fees and/or VAT or other local taxes that are not reflected in your order total. Any such additional fees or taxes are the sole responsibility of the customer and may be charged at delivery

Not a leg to stand on.
 
Not really. Lots of other courier companies insist of the charges paid first before delivery. They ring us up and ask for payment over the phone via card. No payment = no delivery.

It's good that some companies will pay on your behalf and collect later.

It tends to depend on the company, as the couriers with express services tend to delivery then invoice you, whilst ones where people haven't paid for the speedy service will hold the package.

IIRC from memory I've had
UPS - pay at door (used to be cash or cheque, but i think it's now card).
RM/PF card through door which you either ring up a number to pay, or pop down to the delivery office to pay as you pick the package up.
Fed-Ex and DHL - deliver first, bill later.
 
btqw if you can order the stuff from china instead you will 90% of the time never get any charges and most china based online sellers will put a false value you on the package lol.

some even let you decide at the checkout what value should be printed, takes usually 2-3 weeks to get stuff from china though.
 
Just throw it away. Fedex and DHL never chase up their invoices for import duties. Most other companies will charge you upfront before you get the item

You absolute .......

If everybody did that, then Fedex would withdraw that service and hold your parcels to ransom like parcelforce does.
 
You absolute ........

If everybody did that, then Fedex would withdraw that service and hold your parcels to ransom like parcelforce does.

Or, more likely is that they would just start chasing up and using debt collection agencies. They would probably need a re-working of their whole delivery side operation if they were to withhold packages which would be less cost-effective or efficient than appointing a dca.

I have imported from the states and china / japan and never yet been hit with duty. My time will come:D. However, any post from the states has been opened whether it is sent EMS or Recorded. Never had anything opened coming from china even with big and heavy packages. I will only have things shipped EMS.

When I used to collect Transformers (Toys), I would often order on Friday and the occasions when I ordered from a UK seller and Hong Kong Seller, the HK seller would have it to me by monday (via EMS) and I would usually be waiting until Wed from the UK shops.
 
I suspect if enough people refused to pay they'd just hold for personal customers (business customers will likely get enough that being blacklisted by a courier will cause issues).

Remember personal customers don't make up the bulk of international shipping that attracts customs for the couriers, so they'd probably either simply change the delivery method, or require more of the retailers to charge the vat/duty in advance (it can be done, but most foreign retailers don't as it's an added level of complexity).

Or they'd simply "blacklist" people who'd refused to pay when billed later and have the system flag them for prepayment whenever a package entered the system.
 
Fedex did the same to me when I bought a soundcard, they imported it and sent it me and then a week or 2 later I received a bill for import duties,

I paid it via the phone and all was well
 
Just goes to show the attitude of some people, take what they can and give nothing back.

If fedex have been kind enough to pay the import duties for you, then you should pay them back, which im sure op will. If every did as some people have in this thread, everyone would be ripping everyone else off.
 
Fedex were a mixed bag for me when i sent a present to a friend in the states, turns out you need a lot of paperwork to send things over there.

Long story cut short, they lost the documents to accompany the gift so had to redo them and email it to the US customs office but that was fine. What i found good was that you could get fedex to charge the sender (me) with the import charges, so my friend didnt have to pay to receive their own present. Was a quick and easy delivery in the end, just the paperwork was a nightmare :)
 
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