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Could have waited 7 mins and posted "up for 3 days" 
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Just an update for anybody who is interested:
I still have the Billion 7800N and I am still trying to get the router to hold the connection at low SNR margins. There has been a lot of instability recently but I am hopeful since I moved the router today and the errors seem to have reduced already.
I'll keep you updated.
I still have the Billion 7800N and I am still trying to get the router to hold the connection at low SNR margins. There has been a lot of instability recently but I am hopeful since I moved the router today and the errors seem to have reduced already.
I'll keep you updated.
After sending the Billion 7800N back, I tried a TP-link WD8960N and considering it's less than a third the price of the Billion, it's a great little router. Went partial LLU via Xilo/Uno broadband (using talktalk kit at my exchange) in the end and my line has been up and rock solid for the last 20 days (best rx speed I've ever had and PING top class as well).
PS. The TP-link modem/router appears to be pretty good at holding the connection at low SNRM, mine regularly drops to 2dB and below during the evening.
PS. The TP-link modem/router appears to be pretty good at holding the connection at low SNRM, mine regularly drops to 2dB and below during the evening.
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Is phyRe recommended to be turned on?
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Yes. It provides better resilience against impulse noise.
It makes no difference whatsoever unless the feature is also turned on at the DSLAM in the exchange - I'm not sure if any UK ISP supports this feature, but I am sure that I will be corrected if there is one out there that does
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That is what I thought, which is why I am puzzled as to why so many people recommend turning it on!
Agreed. This is the conclusion that I came to when I had one of these routers and was investigating this "feature". As I've commented before, if you try a quick GOOGLE, there is hardly any mention anywhere about this (other than some pretty old press releases and a couple of posts on other forums asking about it)! Though I am aware that some folks had said that it appears to have helped.
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No matter then, I thought from reading that it was a client side thing.
EDIT: Just found a white paper - it is a client side thing, but needs a DSLAM with a broadcom chipset to understand it.
EDIT: Just found a white paper - it is a client side thing, but needs a DSLAM with a broadcom chipset to understand it.
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I have seen people make this assertion before and I'm afraid you are wrong.
Phyre on the DG834GT simply did not work but on the Billion it makes a massive difference to speed and stability
You probably won't notice that unless you are on a long line
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I seemed to notice the difference too, could be that my ISP is running a Broadcom chipset DSLAM with it turned on??
Re Broadcom PhyR.... As far as I'm aware, after extensive use of good old GOOGLE and posting my own queries on both Billion's own forum and on thinkbroadband, no ISP's use this (certainly did nothing for me and my line is over 3km long). To be totally honest, if this was actually any good, you would have thought it would have been shouted from the rooftops! Not disputing the folks that claim it's helped them, just a little sceptical as I can find no hard evidence that it actually does anything.