you can and again from what I've found most of the systems offer that too, but like the rfid cards/fobs it is open to abuse - buddy logging (must be an American term!)
it's as easy to give your mate your pin as it is to give them your card
biometric clocking in/out systems?
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you can and again from what I've found most of the systems offer that too, but like the rfid cards/fobs it is open to abuse - buddy logging (must be an American term!)
it's as easy to give your mate your pin as it is to give them your card
no they don't - the whole point was they are 24 hour gyms... i.e the gyms which are still open when they don't have staff present - they use a camera system on the doors in conjunction with RFID
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We use them on site with turnstiles. Very accurate and reliable. We use a company called http://www.permanexgroup.co.uk.
If it's just the software you need I can look tomorrow for you on the bit of kit
If it's just the software you need I can look tomorrow for you on the bit of kit
Don't know what they cost but they use those where I work. Never had a problem clocking in or out on them, the Kronos software is pretty cack though.
Need the hardware too. I'll have a look at their website and maybe give them a call.
They may not need to monitored in real time but the fact of having a camera means that someone has to monitor it. That said, their usage requirements and mine are completely different. With Rfid it is easily open to misuse/buddy clocking. I'd rather not have to sit and scroll through video feed to make sure that isn't happening. As I said if I or someone else had the time to do that we could just have staff sign in/out at reception
Any idea on reliability? Maybe take a squizz on the way by tomorrow and see what make?
That's the one I recently purchased (well I got just the rfid version)
It works, the software is a little clunky - maybe because I networked installed it rather than on a standalone PC, which required a firebird sql install to make it work iirc (which I managed to do - with not knowing anything about firebird or sql, so it couldn't have been difficult)
At the end of the day, you are looking at budget systems, as I was, so it's not going to be all singing and dancing but it is functional.
Can't say it's saved me any time processing the payroll though....probably with all the missed & incorrect clocking it probably takes me longer than when we just used time sheets
mind if I ask if you've had any reason to use their support services - just curious how good they are if you have any problems?
It was a bit of both why we changed to the clocking in machine, as when filling in time sheets it was amazing that employees always remembered when they did extra hours, but forgot those days off sick
I think they charge extra for support? At least for installation they do iirc. We didn't pay for any but have rung them a couple of times with questions.
Umm, it was minimal at best and the instruction manual is a bit pidgeon english, but it's not that complicated a system / software and is easily figured out.
Like I say, it's functional but doesn't have the bells and whistles. We asked ADT for a quote for their system, and I'm sure it came back at over £6k!
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My last employer had a facial recognition system, it worked flawlessly.
In fact, I've turned up the past 2 years to do some consulting work and it still recognises my face. Took all of a fraction of a second to register the face which always blew my mind.
Stops people clocking other people in with RFID or swipe cards.
In fact, I've turned up the past 2 years to do some consulting work and it still recognises my face. Took all of a fraction of a second to register the face which always blew my mind.
Stops people clocking other people in with RFID or swipe cards.
Have the staff been informed that they will be required to "sign in" and possibility of their finger print being recorded?
I don't think they will take to kindly to having that forced down upon them.
My work tried it, but because people don't want to have to filter through the main office to get places, and would much rather go directly to their workplace they just don't do it. And no one checks.
I don't think they will take to kindly to having that forced down upon them.
My work tried it, but because people don't want to have to filter through the main office to get places, and would much rather go directly to their workplace they just don't do it. And no one checks.
It was a bit of both why we changed to the clocking in machine, as when filling in time sheets it was amazing that employees always remembered when they did extra hours, but forgot those days off sick
I think they charge extra for support? At least for installation they do iirc. We didn't pay for any but have rung them a couple of times with questions.
Umm, it was minimal at best and the instruction manual is a bit pidgeon english, but it's not that complicated a system / software and is easily figured out.
Like I say, it's functional but doesn't have the bells and whistles. We asked ADT for a quote for their system, and I'm sure it came back at over £6k!
cheers for that.
and yes ADT also quoted us at silly money too!
you don't happen to know which system they were using? I was of the opinion (probably wrongly) that the fingerprint systems were more reliable - purely based on the fact the technology has been around longer (probably wrong on that too!
)that's something the owners can worry themselves with - I'm steering clear of that can of worms. I've simply been tasked with the job of identifying a decent enough system to do what we want
they will have to abide by it here and it will be checked - our main problem is that people are just coming and going as they please (well 1 or 2 main culprits really) and the company would rather just in a round about way encourage them to stick a bit more closely to their working hours rather than going the whole disciplinary route
What I've been looking at so far have been biometric systems which include RFID so if we do have problems with the biometric scanning at least we have a fall back.
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We use hand scanners at work to gain entry to sites. And it acts as a sort of digital tally system. Though we have dedicated tally huts for people actually going into construction sites.
They're fairly standard systems now. They're quick and easy to set up. They work very well in my experience.
Never had issues with finger prints being stored either, even in heavily unionised work forces.
They're fairly standard systems now. They're quick and easy to set up. They work very well in my experience.
Never had issues with finger prints being stored either, even in heavily unionised work forces.
People who are saying that biometric scanners are rubbish/unreliable must be using cheap or just poor ones.
Our company writes software for prisons/detention centres and as you can imagine the biometric scanners have to be extremely reliable.
We only use Sagem fingerprint scanners and they seem to be great, we don't get many issues with them for the number of devices that we support.
Also, with regards to storing fingerprints, it is a one way process, you can't get the fingerprint back from the DB record. Well that's at least the case with the sagem sdk.
Can't help you on the software front though, unless you want to turn your place of work into a prison
Our company writes software for prisons/detention centres and as you can imagine the biometric scanners have to be extremely reliable.
We only use Sagem fingerprint scanners and they seem to be great, we don't get many issues with them for the number of devices that we support.
Also, with regards to storing fingerprints, it is a one way process, you can't get the fingerprint back from the DB record. Well that's at least the case with the sagem sdk.
Can't help you on the software front though, unless you want to turn your place of work into a prison
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I work in Biometrics - like ben is saying, the cheap ones suck
Crossmatch make the best stuff but even their single print device can be £300+
Crossmatch make the best stuff but even their single print device can be £300+
My old place used to use a hand scan and pin-code thing. It had pins that you had to push your hand up against and press down after typing in your pin-code.
It did fail a few times but generally it was pretty reliable over the two years I was there.
It did fail a few times but generally it was pretty reliable over the two years I was there.