BioShock for PS3

TheStig1 said:
since when?
since you just made that up to suit yourself?
game is available on another gaming format its not exclusive
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See i agree with that, but now it seems exclusive only means console exclusive not exclusive as in not on any platform. For example Uncharted is a PS3 exclusive, Gears of War is a 360 exclusive, but gears is also on PC. I think PC owners would be slightly miffed to know that they dont matter anymore lol
 
I played it on PC, was really looking forward to it after the demo but then got bored of it really quickly :(
 
Shamikebab said:
PC doesn't count as competition.
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msmalls74 said:
I think PC owners would be slightly miffed to know that they dont matter anymore lol
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If sales are the be-all and end-all of what decides which platforms matter than I guess most of you are wrong when you constantly berate the Wii. It does, after all, "matter" far more than the 360 and PS3. :)
 
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wannabedamned said:
In the current generation, What's seen as a 360 exclusive, Just means it won't be coming to PS3, and Vice Versa.
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An exclusive is a title that is exclusive to a platform, i.e. on 360 but not on PS3, Wii, DS, PSP, PC, etc. How this can possibly be twisted any other way is really beyond me, not sure what you guys are trying to prove.
 
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It's good that a game that has previously only been available on PC and 360 is coming to the PS3. It's just a shame that the game in question is rather boring.
 
Shamikebab said:
not really, pc and mac gaming isn't really treated as a competitive market. PC isn't really directly in competition with any platform.
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I would really like to see some sort of official source for this. I've never actually heard anyone say the PC market isn't in competition until people like you and NokkonWud started saying it tonight, not once.

Doug Lombardi of Valve seems to think the PC is a competitive platform anyway.
 
I just don't think its treated as such, you don't see titles trying to avoid each other in release dates (Halo 2 and Half Life 2 were launched barely 2 weeks apart if I remember correctly) In the days when the GTA series had a contract with Sony I always heard people saying GTA is exclusive to Playstation, despite it being on PC. For me there is 3 groups, the Wii, the PC, and then PS3 and 360. You rarely, if ever here of Wii titles being talked about as in competition with 360 or PS3 titles, and I believe its the same with PC. I don't see companies tactically releasing games on PC to compete with or avoid major console release for example.
 
Shamikebab said:
I just don't think its treated as such, you don't see titles trying to avoid each other in release dates (Halo 2 and Half Life 2 were launched barely 2 weeks apart if I remember correctly) In the days when the GTA series had a contract with Sony I always heard people saying GTA is exclusive to Playstation, despite it being on PC. For me there is 3 groups, the Wii, the PC, and then PS3 and 360. You rarely, if ever here of Wii titles being talked about as in competition with 360 or PS3 titles, and I believe its the same with PC. I don't see companies tactically releasing games on PC to compete with or avoid major console release for example.
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PC games are released at the same time as console games all the time, even if we exclude cross-platform titles like Bioshock. As an example Crysis and Mass Effect were released within days of eachother.

That said, I don't see how release dates say anything about which platforms are "relevant" or "irrelevant".

I'm not having a go, but you said "PC isn't really directly in competition with any platform" almost as if it were a fact, when I think that you meant to say "PC isn't really directly in competition with any platform because it's just how I choose to arbitrarily divide them".

Going back to what I said about Nintendo earlier. I don't even own a Wii, but through the sheer amount it's selling you can't say that it's not taking sales away from other platforms. It's definitely competing.
 
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I think we're comparing different things here. Im not saying the PC is irrelevant in any way, obviously its a market. But I dont think the PC or the Wii directly compete against the other two in the same way the PS3 and 360 compete. They indirectly compete because of them all being in the game industry. You mentioned Crysis and Mass Effect, when Crysis was criticized for poor initial sales, i never saw it mentioned that it was because a competitor (360) had launched a big game at the same time for example. As for the Wii taking sales away from the other two, I'm not sure. Maybe some, but I feel the vast majority of the Wii sales are new people buying a console rather than switching from the competitors. I do not think that I'm setting these boundaries. How many articles do you see comparing a particular games sales on 360 to pc for example? or even wii to 360? not that many. Where as there are multiple articles analyzing sales/video comparisons/technical comparisons of nearly every major PS3 and 360 title.
 
Shamikebab said:
I think we're comparing different things here. Im not saying the PC is irrelevant in any way, obviously its a market. But I dont think the PC or the Wii directly compete against the other two in the same way the PS3 and 360 compete.
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They all compete against each other but the reason the PS3 and 360 seem to compete more is probably down to them being so similar. Their hardware is extremely similar and the vast majority of titles on them are multi-platform.

Shamikebab said:
They indirectly compete because of them all being in the game industry. You mentioned Crysis and Mass Effect, when Crysis was criticized for poor initial sales, i never saw it mentioned that it was because a competitor (360) had launched a big game at the same time for example.
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Crysis had pretty good initial sales and quickly passed the 1,000,000 mark. That said it had a number of games to compete with; Mass Effect I already mentioned, but let's not forget that Call Of Duty 4 (multi-platform) was also released in early November and The Orange Box (also multi-platform) was still raking in money from its launch in the second half of October. The Witcher (PC exclusive) also came out in late October.

To me this all points to it being a competitor to those games.

Shamikebab said:
As for the Wii taking sales away from the other two, I'm not sure. Maybe some, but I feel the vast majority of the Wii sales are new people buying a console rather than switching from the competitors.
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It can't really be denied that the Wii has been selling like hot cakes since it came out and as far as I am aware it's surpassed both the 360 and PS3 in units sold by a fair margin.

Shamikebab said:
I do not think that I'm setting these boundaries. How many articles do you see comparing a particular games sales on 360 to pc for example? or even wii to 360? not that many. Where as there are multiple articles analyzing sales/video comparisons/technical comparisons of nearly every major PS3 and 360 title.
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I was just discussing this exact thing with mr.sly on MSN and he said that a lot of websites track sales. He said that Kotaku, 1UP, and 1UP Yours discuss them regularly and he thinks that gamesindustry.biz posts them regularly too. I couldn't say personally as I don't track sales specifically, I just catch the odd article.
 
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w/e ladies lol.

Back on topic. I'm happy for PS3 owners... kinda annoyed though if they get game content which 360 owners won't get though. It's starting to **** me off that any game released later on a different platform gets more content. Lost Planet... GoW
 
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