Bit of a Rant about the benefit system
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Passed governments have a lot to answer for, they almost signal handily ruined a lot of industry/areas and made living on benefits a way of life add in immigration working 40 hours to bring home £200 a week vs doing nothing and getting just as much in benefits, is sickening. I know a Latvian bloke that has lived and worked here for 4 years and he get got a temp job over Christmas earning £180 a week and after petrol and living costs he was about £10 better off compared to benefits.
Stopping benefits is the only answer, forcing people to work to feed your family is the only option.
No doubt this comes under EU rules and human rights.
Stopping benefits is the only answer, forcing people to work to feed your family is the only option.
No doubt this comes under EU rules and human rights.
Morally no, it's not right, but it's the way it works.
There's a table showing who get's preference and the order is
1) children born between 2nd July 2007 and 31st August 2007 who's parents must be on income support or income based jobseekers allowance
2) children born between 1st September 2007 and 31st July 2008 who's parents must be on income support or income based jobseekers allowance
3) Children born between 2nd July 2007 and 31st August 2007 who's parents are stupid enough to work for a living
4) Children born between 1st September 2007 and 31st July 2008 who's parents are stupid enough to work for a living.
5) Children who's siblings have attended the school
6) Children with special needs (who in my opinion should be given priority not be shoved way down the list)
If there are too many children in category 3 and 4 then it's based on chronological age order.
If it's oversubscribed it's lucky dip time and based on a table of what your surname begins with, luckily mine begins with "P" so I'm at the top of this table (seems to be a random letter order).
This is taken from the admissions guidelines for the Western Education and Library board.
If you have a physical / mental issue, fair enough, but if there are other members of the family who can work...they should work quite frankly
True, you certainly can't have two family members as registered carers and neither working, as that's stupid.
I know a woman who is living in the 'Affordable Homes' section of the flats I live in. She was given the home by the council, despite the fact they are supposed to be bought by people like Firemen, Police Officers etc... She has a son with a handicap and she is his carer and doesn't work. She could probably have a carer and go to work, but then she is a single parent and probably feels she is the best carer for her son, which is fair enough.
Back to what you are saying though, one thing that really annoys me about people 'profiting' off the back of somebody with a disability/handicap are people using disabled parking badges. I live in North London where parking is pretty scarce, however it seems that nearly everyone has a disabled parking badge.... nobody I see getting out of one, aside from the aforementioned woman & her son is ever suffering from a disability which is why it's getting abused.
A couple of things that personally annoy me about it are:
- Outside my flats is an old French ambulance that's plastered in stickers, never moves and it's probably not even road legal. However it has a disabled badge, so basically stays there as somebody's external storage.
- My Dad has a really bad knee and struggles to walk long distances. Yet I see young people swanning around putting their disabled badge up when they park.
I think you should only be able to use one when you have a disabled person with you, or they are the driver. But then enforcing that is another thing.
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I would burn the chavs.
You cant assume its not their badge. It usually wont be, but I have a friend with mental issues who is entitled to a badge and could run a marathon tomorrow if required. Just because you cant see the reason they have the badge doesn't mean they are not entitled to it.
so i see all the rage here.. and i sort of understand.. but then again.. we will all pay the same taxes we are paying now.. and the money will still go somewhere and we probably won't even notice.. so whats the point in the all the "rage"
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instead of money, it should be things like food tokens so they exchange tokens for food etc.
"It'll be humiliating for them"; "it's against their human rights!"; "why should they be made to feel different?". I. Don't. Care. No cash, no money, everything is tokens that are non-transferable and cannot be sold on. The attempted sale of these tokens should be punishable with prision.
If they need the basic amenities in life - then the state should provide. If they want Sky+ HD stuff, large TV, new car, holidays, beer etc; then they bloody well work, or go without.
I, as a tax payer, am sick and bloody tired of paying for their lifestyle choices. People on benefits should be forced to wear a uniform informing everyone as to their social status. They should be ridiculed at every step of the way, and made to feel like a complete failure as a human being until such time as they start contributing.
Of course, all the above I would apply only to chose who CHOOSE the welfare lifestyle, or otherwise can't be arsed to work or "can't work" due to bull**** medical reasons that aren't actually real but canny really be dis-proved.
Those who truely need the system, should benefit from it. Everyone else... there's several hundred thousand miles of street/pavement in this country, get cleaning.
"It'll be humiliating for them"; "it's against their human rights!"; "why should they be made to feel different?". I. Don't. Care. No cash, no money, everything is tokens that are non-transferable and cannot be sold on. The attempted sale of these tokens should be punishable with prision.
If they need the basic amenities in life - then the state should provide. If they want Sky+ HD stuff, large TV, new car, holidays, beer etc; then they bloody well work, or go without.
I, as a tax payer, am sick and bloody tired of paying for their lifestyle choices. People on benefits should be forced to wear a uniform informing everyone as to their social status. They should be ridiculed at every step of the way, and made to feel like a complete failure as a human being until such time as they start contributing.
Of course, all the above I would apply only to chose who CHOOSE the welfare lifestyle, or otherwise can't be arsed to work or "can't work" due to bull**** medical reasons that aren't actually real but canny really be dis-proved.
Those who truely need the system, should benefit from it. Everyone else... there's several hundred thousand miles of street/pavement in this country, get cleaning.
People are angry as they would rather the money be spent in a better way. Understandable....
We don't all pay the same taxes though, we pay in truck loads and get nothing.
No you are totally right...
That's the reason I'd never challenge anyone when they stick a disabled badge up and don't look disabled, as they may have a disability that isn't obvious.
Like I said though, the sheer number of them I've seen in North London and the fact that many of them are locked to the steering wheel says to me that they are a sought after parking permit, which they will try their best to fiddle to get one...
Most of the time it's probably the case that the car is registered to an elderly family member who is obviously entitled to one... however the whole family will use the car and park where they want, even though they don't have the relative.
On a secondary note though...
Surely the purpose of a disabled badge is to assist somebody who is disabled, in which case it should be obvious. I accept that there are some conditions that can be deliberating that aren't obvious, but if you had a mental illness, you most likely wouldn't be fit to drive in the first place.
This is why I, and I'm sure plenty of others always look at an able bodied person getting out of a 'disabled' car with question.
You think thats bad
We have/are becoming a society of morons wanting everything on a plate.
Maybe, when people that work full time cant afford to live life and just end up working to pay taxes, energy bills, fuel costs we could see a revolt until everything will go on as normal, tories wont do anything that they promised about benefits and work
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GO OUT AND WORK YOU LAZY BUGGERS AND STOP WATCHING BINNER TV!!! 
Oh, I agree, tired of paying for people I'd wouldn't douse with water if on fire, happy to pay for those who need my help, not those who take my taxes and spend their scummy life complaining and telling the world why they should have something 'cus that bloke as it, so why not....init'.
Oh, I agree, tired of paying for people I'd wouldn't douse with water if on fire, happy to pay for those who need my help, not those who take my taxes and spend their scummy life complaining and telling the world why they should have something 'cus that bloke as it, so why not....init'.
Im in that small minority
Its annoying I will have to pay for my transport to get to college :/I've noticed that I get the first 2 years free at University if I am on the free school meals at my school so I guess that makes up for it
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The problem is benefits are, actually I can't remember what percentage of our national spending but its basically sickening, and we have a MASSIVE deficit, which is effecting our economy.
The rage is, if benefits spending was under control our deficit and national debt would be in a far less bad position, far far less bad. Which would mean same taxes paid but not slowly selling the country to China, not losing jobs by the day, no recession etc, etc.
Labour will tell you the banking system caused the recession, the banking system collapse was the results in a lack of growth which frankly the entire banking system has, ALWAYS HAS, and always will depend on. Its a ponzi scheme, most of government is, our pension scheme is certainly a ponzi scheme. Without growth you have problems, Labour helped destroy the growth in our economy, which in turn led to a lot of lost jobs, the banking problems and is one of the fundamental reasons SO many people are on benefits.
We should most certainly have "government" stores with, frankly not low quality food, but cheap food, food tokens and reduce the amount of cash being given to people on benefits massively.
Have these government food stores have healthier foods, wholemeal breads/pasta's, limited fast food, don't let some benefits whore with 12 kids not only get fat on the worst quality food which will cost us with healthcare in the future but also feeding 12 kids crap food , so she ends up with 12 fat kids of which half are slags, pregnant by 15, and ruled disabled by the time they are 20 and live their lives on benefits aswell.