US: Blacklist
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Soldato
Possible Spoiler (maybe a bit obvious)?
Are they being deliberately "obvious" with their constant hints that she's his daughter so that we can get a switch-back at a later date?
Soldato
I think that would be too obvious I'm thinking he's grooming her to take over his empire/role/Mater manipulation/whatever the hell he does!
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Hmm...not sure about this one. The female lead is fit but a crap actress and quite unbelievable. The premise seems to have little scope.
I'll pass.
I'll pass.
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What I hoped the plot turned out to be was that he was actually a great agent back in the day but turned rogue when his investigations constantly got held back by corrupt politicians. Then the few people he managed to stop were always the low level guys, so he goes rogue to learn who all these people are and take them down. I quite like the idea of that, but I feel it's more likely that he wants to teach her to take over, that she can do more good as a bad guy controlling how much damage they can do rather than as a lowly agent.
Either way the agents not trusting him, constantly wading in is already a bit old, how many times will he disappear and reappear himself before they get bored of that particular story feature. As everyone has said all along, she is a woeful actress and doesn't work, her complete u-turn in her personality in almost every other scene would likely be painful with a good actress let alone a bad one.
The only one of those I haven't seen is the Grey, Smokin Aces is precisely what I was getting at, fancy camera work(trying to be) no substance, I hated it. Narc was meh and the A Team is complete cack.
I think the biggest problem with the show is actually Spader, there is something about him, I think he has to be reigned in big time to be good rather than just, creepy and weird. I think you needed Spader at his best and reigned in and more likeable, basically someone likeable(loveable maybe) as the rogue agent, charming or funny, creepy doesn't quite work as, early days but I get the feeling the character being endearing would work so much better.
Either way the agents not trusting him, constantly wading in is already a bit old, how many times will he disappear and reappear himself before they get bored of that particular story feature. As everyone has said all along, she is a woeful actress and doesn't work, her complete u-turn in her personality in almost every other scene would likely be painful with a good actress let alone a bad one.
The only one of those I haven't seen is the Grey, Smokin Aces is precisely what I was getting at, fancy camera work(trying to be) no substance, I hated it. Narc was meh and the A Team is complete cack.
I think the biggest problem with the show is actually Spader, there is something about him, I think he has to be reigned in big time to be good rather than just, creepy and weird. I think you needed Spader at his best and reigned in and more likeable, basically someone likeable(loveable maybe) as the rogue agent, charming or funny, creepy doesn't quite work as, early days but I get the feeling the character being endearing would work so much better.
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Just watched the first episode, pure awfulness. From the opening scene to the end, everything about it felt so clichéd and obvious. The writing is rubbish, the acting is poor, the whole thing was nicely summed-up by the roadblock scene which played out exactly as you'd expect having seen the same thing a million times before. There wasn't even a hint of an attempt to try to do anything in a fresh or different way.
If I'm in a forgiving mood I'll watch the second episode this week but I've already deleted the series link.
If I'm in a forgiving mood I'll watch the second episode this week but I've already deleted the series link.
Soldato
They've not released the information on his arrest as of yet.
he walked into a public area and no one would know? seems a bit unrealistic.
I enjoy the show for what it is though
Soldato
It was a Public area in a High security Federal building so they were probably able to feed misinformation to the press.
For High profile criminals such as himself with the links he has to other organized crime syndicates they'll want to keep notice of his arrest under-hat so they can pursue any leads he gives them either under duress or willingly without his acquaintances being any the wiser... although he seems to have that well in hand himself regardless.
Soldato
He's a master manipulator and has made himself a damn good deal with the Feds who form the meetings we've seen aren't going to live up to their end of the bargain regardless but i believe he already knows this look at the matey they took down in the 1st episode for example he was playing both sides against the other for what reason we're still to find out but he's clearly got an agenda of his own and being in federal custody just seems to be a means to accomplishing it... for now!
I liked the fact that nobody recognised him when he walked in and took his coat off despite him being one of their 'most wanted' and his poster being on the wall.
Even more incompetent than the FBI portrayed in The Following, and I wasn't sure such a feat was possible.
Even more incompetent than the FBI portrayed in The Following, and I wasn't sure such a feat was possible.
did you watch last nights episode?
at least try to explain it in some way like person of interest does which seems like a very similar program.
person of interest has self aware computer able to monitor any webcam, security camera , hack into anything it likes etc.
gives the good guys a new social security number every episode of someone in danger for whatever unknown reason.
black list has raymond or whatever hes called giving the feds info on the next target every episode.
I find the self aware computer more plausible even though both programs are pretty fat fetched I'd say POI has a lot less plot holes
guy scans for bugs etc.
guy has tracking chip in his kneck.
nevermind he says what it is let's just move on down into the secure bunker. (that just happens to be deep enough down to block all tracking chips anyway so why scan?)
no one noticed the woman plug the usb receiver into the other computer and the computer wasn't secure and the only thing that popped up on the screen appeared to be a short cut link
they just happen to have the plastic likely impossible to ever be real tracking device that looks like a nicotine patch on the woman who just happens to stick it to the bad guys car.
seems like they decide how the episode will be and then invent plot mechanics to make it happen even if they don't appear logical or plausible.
guy has tracking chip in his kneck.
nevermind he says what it is let's just move on down into the secure bunker. (that just happens to be deep enough down to block all tracking chips anyway so why scan?)
no one noticed the woman plug the usb receiver into the other computer and the computer wasn't secure and the only thing that popped up on the screen appeared to be a short cut link
they just happen to have the plastic likely impossible to ever be real tracking device that looks like a nicotine patch on the woman who just happens to stick it to the bad guys car.
seems like they decide how the episode will be and then invent plot mechanics to make it happen even if they don't appear logical or plausible.
person of interest has self aware computer able to monitor any webcam, security camera , hack into anything it likes etc.
gives the good guys a new social security number every episode of someone in danger for whatever unknown reason.
black list has raymond or whatever hes called giving the feds info on the next target every episode.
I find the self aware computer more plausible even though both programs are pretty fat fetched I'd say POI has a lot less plot holes
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yea it's like bin laden handing him self in to the cia and then wandering around America freely giving them targets..
I'll stick with it though maybe they will get less sloppy writing over time with less blatantly obvious plot holes
Soldato
Now that it received 22 episode full season order I'm sure they are going to start working on slightly more interesting long arc story from episode 8-10.