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About to sell along with the rest of my setup, Just waiting for the buyer/s. The money is going on baby stuff, I've signed out of PC gaming. Unless prices for decent performance re-enter sane territory I won't be PC gaming again as investing in family now takes top priority.

I've just seen the thread in the MM - comedy gold! Perfect example of "you snooze, you lose" :D
 
I'd suggest a handheld tbh. Seems like the perfect use case for a deck. The suspend feature allows you to drop and resume at a moments notice.

Yep. I was thinking he should just get a OLED steamdeck and just be happy with that. Can do as much or little gaming as you want then. Also if the only upgrade you will do is going from steamdeck to steamdeck every 3 years or whatever when they update it. The cost will be relatively low.
 
Yep. I was thinking he should just get a OLED steamdeck and just be happy with that. Can do as much or little gaming as you want then. Also if the only upgrade you will do is going from steamdeck to steamdeck every 3 years or whatever when they update it. The cost will be relatively low.
Pfffft, be cheaper just to get a couple of housebricks and solve his current 'problem' :D
 
Yep. I was thinking he should just get a OLED steamdeck and just be happy with that. Can do as much or little gaming as you want then. Also if the only upgrade you will do is going from steamdeck to steamdeck every 3 years or whatever when they update it. The cost will be relatively low.
It's a game changer for those not able to stick to the desk. Better even than a console as kids and such will be using the TV anyway.
 
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Sure does. I already have a steam deck so I'm not buying a legion. It's far more tempting than the Rog ally though. I'll be holding until the next gen come out now.
If suspend works as well as the deck then any will be good with kids.
Suspend on Windows will never work as well as the Deck, not unless Microsoft puts some serious work in. I have had the ROG Ally for over a year (love it :D), but I've never really tried to use sleep/suspend, only hibernate.

Hibernate works well for some games, not universal though.

I have read a lot of positive stories on reddit regarding parents buying Decks/Allys/Legion Go's. They really seem to maximise the potential for gaming, and are much more versatile than the switch, obviously.
 
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is there eta on these? I hear some saying early 2025 and others late 2024, anything concrete to suggest either?

I hope the 5090 gets more VRAM if they are going to be charging these silly prices. This next round of GPU are going to be the worst in terms of price to performance ratio. That's a polite way of saying the leather jacket man is going to shaft us all.
 
Based on gddr7 manufacture announcements it looks like the 5090 will have to be 24gb/32gb because the first gddr7 vram will be 2GB modules only, with 3GB modules only coming later in 2025/2026.

Due to gddr7 only having 2GB modules at first, it means all GPUs using gddr7 will probably be 8gb, 16gb or 24/32gb cards.

Once we have 3GB gddr7 modules in a year or two, then they can make GPUs with up to 48GB.
 
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Based on gddr7 manufacture announcements it looks like the 5090 will have to be 32gb because the first gddr7 vram will be 2GB modules only, with 3GB modules only coming later in 2025/2026.

Due to gddr7 only having 2GB modules at first, it means all GPUs using gddr7 will be 8gb, 16gb or 32gb cards, nothing else between 8gb and 16gb and between 16gb and 32gb will be possible unless they use gddr6

Once we have 3GB gddr7 modules in a year or two, then they can make GPUs with 12GB, 24GB or 48GB.

Won't bus size matter? Like how do we end up on a 10gb card?
 
Won't bus size matter? Like how do we end up on a 10gb card?

10gb gddr6 GPU = 10 x 1GB memory modules

So far, no manufacturer that I've heard of has said they will be producing 1GB gddr7 vram modules, only 2GB and later 3GB, so with gddr7 a 10GB GPU is not possible.
 
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Suspend on Windows will never work as well as the Deck, not unless Microsoft puts some serious work in. I have had the ROG Ally for over a year (love it :D), but I've never really tried to use sleep/suspend, only hibernate.

Hibernate works well for some games, not universal though.

I have read a lot of positive stories on reddit regarding parents buying Decks/Allys/Legion Go's. They really seem to maximise the potential for gaming, and are much more versatile than the switch, obviously.
I found suspend to break sound after a few sleep / wake up cycles on steam deck. Had that happen on the original steam deck as well as the oled model.
 
Ok guys i guess we better get back on Topic

Do you guys reckon most hardcore PC gamers that would paid these high GPU prices are middle age or older as all the younger people i know are only console gamers
Is not THAT much if you're living in a decent country with a decent wage. Of course, if you don't save over the course of 2-3 years or buy it on a credit card with low or zero interest, it can be too much.
But they never seem to have any problems with finding £1,000 for an Iphone ;)
Definitely is about priorities. A long time ago, when PC components were at sane levels, but the advancements were quicker, people were saying "I'll buy a console, is cheaper", but at the same time spent money on changing the phone yearly (and it wasn't on some awesome contract), buying laptops and other gadgets / tech.
 
Based on gddr7 manufacture announcements it looks like the 5090 will have to be 24gb/32gb because the first gddr7 vram will be 2GB modules only, with 3GB modules only coming later in 2025/2026.

Due to gddr7 only having 2GB modules at first, it means all GPUs using gddr7 will probably be 8gb, 16gb or 24/32gb cards.

Once we have 3GB gddr7 modules in a year or two, then they can make GPUs with up to 48GB.

What? Memory size depends on both the memory module size and the overall bus width. The memory chips have a 32 bit interface so the number of chips is determined by the bus width divided by 32 and cards must have a multiple of this number of chips.

A card with a 384 bit bus thus uses a multiple of 12 chips (12x32 = 384). The 4090 and 3090Ti used 12 2GB modules whereas the 3090 used 24 1GB modules.
Contrast with a card with a 256 bit bus which must use a multiple of 8 memory modules. A 4080 thus uses 8 2GB modules for 16GB.

3GB modules will offer a little more flexibility and will lead to some more "interesting" memory configurations compared to the "standard" 12/16/20/24GB points we've become used to of late.

For example the 4070 has 12GB because its 192 bit bus dictates multiples of 6 memory chips, so they use 6 2GB modules. The next step up would be 24GB which would be too much for a xx70 series card.
With 3GB modules however they could ship an 18GB model.

Regards the 5090, this will retain the "flagship" 384 bit bus and thus the same 24GB memory as its predecessors.
When 3GB chips arrive, a 36GB model would be possible. 32GB would never be.
 
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