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If the speed is faster would it not negate the need to store the data in the first place "just in case". So it just gets what it needs, when it needs it? So you wouldn't need 16gb+ at any one time?

I don't know I may be massively off the mark. It's a tough pill to swallow that Nvidia deliberately holds it back..Still it's hard to deny most of us would rather have last Gen vram, but in greater quantities. Its probably less for gaming reasons though and more not to cut into their workstation cards. Gaming is collateral damage.
the speed only determines the connection bandwidth between the gpu core and vram..
vram still loads data at a rate limited to the pci-e capacity
also, a miss on vram is very expensive to the tune of many gpu core clock cycles like may be 10 easily
 
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Very similar to the last gaming trio. But I like it though, looks more professional.

It's my favorite time seeing all the different coller designs and listening to Gamers Nexus read their marketing hype.

The 5090 coolers will almost certainly be exactly the same. The 5080 ones will likely be over engineered as a result (a good thing).
 
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Hogwarts legacy is a bugged game with a memory leak and constant traversal stutter that uses up most of the RAM/VRAM and has not and will not ever be fixed. They are now working on Hogwarts 2 and iirc a remaster of 1 - So expect any "fixes" to be in those instead given they gave up on the first game like Ubi did with Jedi Survivor.

More recent games though do efficiently make use of as much VRAM as needed and typically up to 14-16GB (4K upscaled) without needing to cache to system RAM which has a performance impact obviously. And don't forget an extra 2GB of VRAM is potentially needed if using tech like Frame Gen...
Worst "my gfx card doesn't have enough vram" post evah :P
Never had any issues with it on my 24gb card.

The game was made for consoles which have 16gb and uses all of that PC's are an afterthought if nvidia are stingy with vram thats not the studio's problem. As HUB said you need a card with vram that matches the consoles, period.
 
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Worst "my gfx card doesn't have enough vram" post evah :P
Never had any issues with it on my 24gb card.

The game was made for consoles which have 16gb and uses all of that PC's are an afterthought if nvidia are stingy with vram thats not the studio's problem. As HUB said you need a card with vram that matches the consoles, period.
I have a 4090, I did not have a problem with Hogwarts using a lot of VRAM, but my point is that this was not normal for that game, the VRAM just kept going up and up to the point 22GB of being used in many areas, which meant all of the VRAM being used since Windows DWM uses 1~GB with other apps in the BG using the remainder. It then spilled over to system RAM and some 17GB of system RAM was then being used too which highlighted the memory leak bugged nature of the game. I have 64GB of RAM so this again wasn't an /issue/ as such.

As said, it's a bugged game which was never fixed and will never be fixed as they abandoned it.
 
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I'm expecting this to be comfortably the most expensive generation of GFX cards we've seen, what I'm hoping for is that Nvidia are backing up with some interesting hardware developments that equate to more than a speed boost over what we have.
 
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This is why I think Nvidia will pull the marketing spin tactic once again, they will claim that the lower VRAM on the lower non-Ti/Super RTX50 cards doesn't matter as GDDR7 is much faster, but the benchmarks from outlets will once again show that this is just PR speak. Then the Super/Ti models come out with more VRAM and whoaoh look, things are much better, though you then pay even more for that.

Meanwhile the 5090 pootles along thrashing everything in its own little world lol.
Nvidia marketing doesn't need to do any extra spin here (although I'm betting their PR is plating seeds right now). If history repeats, wishful thinkers will be "sure" nV is cooking up some magic mekoty compression or management that will allow them to do more with less. All while it's contrary to nV's strategy to reduce component costs and keep people buying their mid-cycle revisions.

This happens every time this conversation has arisen for the past 20 years. No sense in giving it any more airtime.
 
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