Blame it on Hiphop

When are all these hip hop 'artists' going to grow up, buy some clothes that actually fit themselves, and stop carrying lethal weapons for 'protection'?

They DO carry a negative image to youngsters in my eyes...

I feel like saying to them "Have a coke, smile and shut the **** up" :rolleyes:
 
EVH said:
I feel like saying to them "Have a coke, smile and shut the **** up" :rolleyes:
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and they wont hesistate to pump your chest full of hot lead.......lyrically off course. :p


The thing is you cant blame hiphop, there are other factors which have been mentioned somewhere in the post.
 
ElRazur said:
and they wont hesistate to pump your chest full of hot lead.......lyrically off course. :p


The thing is you cant blame hiphop, there are other factors which have been mentioned somewhere in the post.
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How do you know I am not some leet hip hop gangsta myself? :p

I'm not blaming the music.. more the fools who make a living from it.
 
EVH said:
How do you know I am not some leet hip hop gangsta myself? :p

I'm not blaming the music.. more the fools who make a living from it.
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Let me see, how gangsta`are you......

Did you sell drugs? the closet you get was a prescription from your GP

Have been shot? probably in a game of paint ball.

Do you do drive by? and im not talking you MaccyD/KFC drive thru.

See you aint even street yet talkless of a gangsta :p


Seriously, i think there are some artist who need manage their image properly though e.g those who give the genre a bad-name - Badboy rapper Mark Morrison for example (i dont know why they call him a badboy rapper when he is clearly an RnB singer.....oh well the media i guess)
 
ElRazur said:
Let me see, how gangsta`are you......

Did you sell drugs? the closet you get was a prescription from your GP
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What's selling drugs got to do with being a gangster? I could have bought some ;)

Have been shot? probably in a game of paint ball.
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Yes. In the arm.

Do you do drive by? and im not talking you MaccyD/KFC drive thru.
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Yes.. in GTA:SA

See you aint even street yet talkless of a gangsta :p
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;) ;)
 
Cameron is right. These hip-hop songs harp on about violence and disorder in such a gratuitous fashion as to desensitise the listener to the crime. I don't think that everyone who listens to hip-hop music goes on to commit crime, but I do think it leads to a level of passive acceptance.
 
RATM said:
Heres an example just a little sample:
How could I just kill a man
One time tried to come in my home take my chrome
I said yo its on. take cover son or youre assed out
How do you like my chrome then I watched the rookie pass out
Didnt have to blast him but I did any way, ha ha ha young punk had to pay
So I just killed a man
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Nope, no endorsement of violence at all.
 
Gun Goes Off While Man Raps, Kills Friend

Ronnie Webber is being charged with negligent homicide after he shot his friend Johnathan Beasley in an apparent accidental shooting. Webber was acting out a rap song when he pulled the trigger on a gun he was holding when the song said "shoot."

Police department spokesman Captain James Gallagher said that when they arrived, they found Beasley's body with a gunshot would in his chest in the bedroom. He was later pronounced dead at Elmwood Medical Center near New Orleans.

Officials say that Webber, who was holding his friend's gun, told them he never checked to make sure it didn't have ammunition in it.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SONG_SHOOTING?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US
 
dmpoole said:
Gun Goes Off While Man Raps, Kills Friend

Ronnie Webber is being charged with negligent homicide after he shot his friend Johnathan Beasley in an apparent accidental shooting. Webber was acting out a rap song when he pulled the trigger on a gun he was holding when the song said "shoot."

Police department spokesman Captain James Gallagher said that when they arrived, they found Beasley's body with a gunshot would in his chest in the bedroom. He was later pronounced dead at Elmwood Medical Center near New Orleans.






Officials say that Webber, who was holding his friend's gun, told them he never checked to make sure it didn't have ammunition in it.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SONG_SHOOTING?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US
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And what exactly are you trying to say/imply?......Rap music is responsible? Oh yes for him to play around with a loaded gun.....yes let's blame it on hiphop.
 
ElRazur said:
And what exactly are you trying to say/imply?......Rap music is responsible? Oh yes for him to play around with a loaded gun.....yes let's blame it on hiphop.
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I guess he took the message a little too literally... seems there must be a connection between rap and low IQ
 
cleanbluesky said:
I guess he took the message a little too literally... seems there must be a connection between rap and low IQ
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There is no connectoion whatsoever period. Simple common sense seems to be what he lacks. Would dmpoole post that link if it happened whilst he(the trigger guy) was playing guitar in band or listening to other genre of music....
 
Mattus said:
Cameron is right. These hip-hop songs harp on about violence and disorder in such a gratuitous fashion as to desensitise the listener to the crime. I don't think that everyone who listens to hip-hop music goes on to commit crime, but I do think it leads to a level of passive acceptance.
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I disagree, i listen to rap all the time as does my brother as do a lot of my friends, if any of us saw a crime in progress i.e rape we would help the victim without hesitation. Rap doesn't turn people bad or desensitize people to violence at all IMO, we see violence on TV all the time. The reason most people are violent is because of money, drugs and alcohol, thats why there are "gangsters" in the first place. I think most people have rappers as idles because they want to be like them, not the killing people side but they want to rap on stage and have the nice cars, money etc, like Eminem wanted to be a rapper.

Also a lot of people are talking about chavs being like they are because of rap, thats a load of rubbish. For a start most chavs listen to hardcore, at least up north they do. Also their parents are just the same as their kids i.e on the dole, getting drunk every day etc, they don't listen to rap they listen to rock etc so i don't think rap even comes into it. I think chav kids are the way they are because of their lack of upbringing, not because they heard the F word on a CD.

Mark
 
OK LETS LET THIS THREAD DIE, NUTTERS DO GET INFLUENCED BECAUSE THEY WERE NUTS IN THE FIRST PLACE, NORMAL PEOPLE WITH BRAINS DON'T. ps. im 16 listen to loads of music and i havent shot anyone, yet....
 
ElRazur said:
There is no connectoion whatsoever period. Simple common sense seems to be what he lacks. Would dmpoole post that link if it happened whilst he(the trigger guy) was playing guitar in band or listening to other genre of music....
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Is there another genre of music that talks about crime and guns so much?

Why was the guy holding a gun? What was the song describing if it said "shoot"?
 
ElRazur said:
Would dmpoole post that link if it happened whilst he(the trigger guy) was playing guitar in band or listening to other genre of music....
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The link that dmpoole posted leads to an article that relates to an incident that happened with a gun while rap was being listened to, so why would he post it if it was another music genre?
 
I can't stand hiphop at all. If it comes on the radio I'd rather listen to my own farts. Apart from being annoying, its very hard to avoid and some of my friends actually like it which makes it worse.

Problem is I have to say I will disagree with what he said because its the same argument as "Violent computer games encourages children to be violent", and since I love all types of games, violent or not it has never made me a violent person, or many of my friends either. I've never had a fight in my life, but I love shooting the ****** out of stuff in games.

But I still hate hiphop because it is not music and I'm yet to find a hip hop track that I think, "oh yeah, that's actually not too bad, pretty catchy, nice tune, interesting lyrics", nope never found one yet.

If we insist of having it played on our radios and mainstream, it should be like adult movies, keep it late at night out of harms way or put a certificate rating on it, just like grand theft auto.. etc.

Not that these actually make any difference but its a start.

Scott.
 
Scott Salisbury said:
But I still hate hiphop because it is not music and I'm yet to find a hip hop track that I think, "oh yeah, that's actually not too bad, pretty catchy, nice tune, interesting lyrics", nope never found one yet.



Scott.
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lol.....hiphop is the biggest selling music in the world period. Millions of people cant be wrong. It is music but i guess it is down to individual. If anyone can actually describe hiphop that way, i wanna know what you listen too.

There are plenty ..yeap plenty of hiphop tracks that are NOT bad, catchy (Akon -locked up), Nice tune (Tupac - ghetto gospel), interesting lyrics (Blackeyed peas - where is the love).....but since you hate hiphop when one is even blaring out loud next to your hear drum you will refuse to listen and acknowledge it.....My opinion off course.
 
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