Let's be honest, no one knew people would come tooled up to this event, it's only because a few days have past, the situation being reported properly and what not, that people suddenly can say "ha" and act all righteous.
Blame on both sides
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What does the KKK normally think/say about black people?
That's not the point I was picking you up on. You stated they were granted a permit for preaching the killing of blacks and jews. It's very obvious that they would not have been granted a permit for that. Are you honestly saying that the permit request stated they wanted to preach killing of them?
You are now trying to obfiscate the point by saying it was obvious what their real intention was. Well maybe it was. I haven't disputed that. What I am disputing is what you stated very clearly:
I will state again... they did not request a permit to call for the mass killing of black people and jews as you state. The permit was not granted to allow them to do that. It simply did not happen. If it had happened then it would have been all over the news before the rally even happened. can you imagine a news outlet passing up the opportunity to expose that? When it was clear that the rally was descending into violence and calling for violence then the permit was cancelled. What you wrote did not happen, regardless of what happened after the permit was issued and regardless of what the intention of some of the protesters was.
No permit was approved for the calling of killing of black and jewish people. It didn't happen.
I do find it amusing that we have a section of the forum so fervently against anything 'left' they openly defend a group with a number sporting the swastika, performing the Nazi salutes & later murdering a young women.
Imagine if a bunch of Radical Muslims had a hate march with signs calling for the murder of infidels then later killing a young women in the UK.
I wonder how the more extreme members of the forum would react.......
Imagine if a bunch of Radical Muslims had a hate march with signs calling for the murder of infidels then later killing a young women in the UK.
I wonder how the more extreme members of the forum would react.......
I only have YouTube to go by - but the far-left are pretty much on par with Nazis in many ways; so many instances of them trying to shut down speeches they don't agree with, beatings, riots, and no end of violence. Antifa, BLM and whoever else are all pretty much behaving like the neo-Nazis and KKK...
Alt-left are mental.
Alt-right are mental.
Both are the same.
Alt-right in this case are white supremacists. "Alt-left" are not. I know who I'd rather have a pint with.
It is the point, answer the question.
What did the neo nazis, KKK and white supremacists go there for, what were their intentions, what was their purpose?
Stop hiding behind semantics.
Also, if you grant a permit, to neo nazis, KKK and white supremacists, to protest (for any reason, be it a statue, to preach, whatever) - what on earth do you think they're going to do? Protest about womens rights?
They are not the same.
A misguided group of annoying social justice warriors who want censorship are not the same as a the KKK/far right groups who call for the deaths of blacks, Jews & gays. (who have also historically killed thousands of them) - along with murdering a women at the event.
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Isn't this part of the problem. Youtube is so biased. And in fact it suggests videos you may like based on your history and subscriptions, so its the ultimate echo chamber.
People post things here all the time (left and right) and I can't even watch them because they are so biased. Young Turks for instance.
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Are you claiming this protest was organised by the KKK? If so, you only further prove your ignorance of what happened.
Rather that comment on a situation you do not understand, why not go and read up on, take in some views from all sides involved and then comment on the story?
All sides involved rofl,
Yeah I'll just take some sound advice from this guy;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P54sP0Nlngg#t=19m10s
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It was organised by Jason Kessler
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...aniser-literally-chased-town-charlottesville/
This is very bizarre.
* you were protesting against the war
* a bunch of people joined you, and shouted Allahu Ackbar, among other things
* you concluded that these people were 'espousing views I would disagree with'
What leads you to that conclusion? Why would a bunch of Muslims oppose a demonstration against the war on Iraq?
Again, I only have all the coverage from events over the years from YouTube - I've never personally attended anything myself, so can't say with any conviction; but the alt-left (and maybe left) are forever portraying the alt-right (and right?) as racists, yet they themselves are just as bad! Hence, both 'alt' sides are, imo, the same right now.
Maybe I'm painting too many people with the same brush - maybe there's only small sections of the alt-left and alt-right who are this bad - but seeing the videos (from both sides) doesn't paint them, again imo, as the alt-left being good and the alt-right being bad. For me, based off what I have seen, they are just as bad as each-other.
Frankly, I'd not want to go to the pub with either.
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They'll both just beat you up if you have a different opinion, so......... no thanks.
Sorry, but I still believe they are. Both sides are calling for deaths and behaving in very much the same manner at protests, sure the KKK/Nazis have killed many - but it's not going to be long before the alt-left are killing people; if they haven't started already.
As an armchair watcher (certainly no expert) on YouTube of all this stuff developing, the alt-left are getting increasingly violent, and are willingly fighting to shut down free speech. Does it make them as bad as the aforementioned groups, who have actually taken lives historically and currently - no, but their mindset (imo) makes them both the same.
Maybe, but I know who I'd rather take my chances with.
I'm always looking for decent news outlets and whatnot, if you have any worth reading, please Trust them or post here. I agree that YT is going down the pan, but it [currently] passes the time when I'm bored.
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