Bleeping furious right now!
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The benefits system is crazy.
I got taken off benefits because whilst applying for a job that the job centre recommended, I saw a job I was qualified for so applied for that instead, and they stopped my benefits.
TBH, the job centre only helps drug addicts or people with no hope get into remedial jobs, when I was on benefits they got me applying for all sorts of stuff from Poundland to a hire shop
Thankfully, through my own initiative I got free SIA training through them and was actually able to get a job through that, if the Job Centre had its way I would probably be working in McDonalds or something lol.
I have a degree in marketing and they kept getting me to apply for jobs in customer service lol
It's laughable, the whole system is *******
I got taken off benefits because whilst applying for a job that the job centre recommended, I saw a job I was qualified for so applied for that instead, and they stopped my benefits.
TBH, the job centre only helps drug addicts or people with no hope get into remedial jobs, when I was on benefits they got me applying for all sorts of stuff from Poundland to a hire shop
Thankfully, through my own initiative I got free SIA training through them and was actually able to get a job through that, if the Job Centre had its way I would probably be working in McDonalds or something lol.
I have a degree in marketing and they kept getting me to apply for jobs in customer service lol
It's laughable, the whole system is *******
Giving one PRIVATE business an advantage over another (via free labour) goes against fair competition - imagine if you had a book shop, how exactly are you going to compete with a shop using modern "slave labour".
Also, I can understand people being narky about giving handouts to those out of work - I disagree with them, but AT LEAST I can understand the logic.
But, this is not the case - if a person is WORKING they should be entitled to receive at least minimum wage for the hours they do.
It's unfair on the competition & undermines our minimum wage laws, if they forced them into minimum wage work instead, at least they would get the reward for the hours they work.
This kind of system is illogical, as it puts people into work - but deny's them the reward (the reward/carrot mechanism), this goes against out understand of what motivates people.
Give them a wage for the work & they may like the extra money & get into work, deny them a wage & it would more likely exasperate the problem.
Me neither, they must be using these people to tidy stock or receive extra deliveries or something.
The point here is at the end of the day, we moved here on the 28th of December and after all the holidays and stuff, I think she only started getting any money like Mid January, so she's been out of work 3-4 weeks tops, I am just going to tell her to tell them to shove it because I don't agree with it, and I'm not going to watch someone I love, work 6am shifts 5 days a week for £1.20 an hour. You lot may have your opinions and I hope that you or a loved one never find yourselves in this situation and don't get me wrong, I agree this scheme could be useful to people who refuse to work or chavs who have done nothing but drink they're lifes aways for years. But I know what her CV is like, she's got A levels and she's had some really nice jobs in the past 4 years, she's been quite lucky until now I guess, in a way I feel guilty because it's partially my fault why she left her last job where she was basically an all around assistant to a photographer and she was really enjoying it as she was also learning photography herself.
But most of all, I feel that companies like Tesco, Poundland, The Works, who are so successful, should feel ashamed for taking MY taxes to use it to fuel they're free labour force. Just like I get angry that a chav uses my taxes to buy cigarettes when I don't even smoke and rarely drink, I feel angry that some fat CEO is getting a bigger bonus this quarter because of my hard work.
I completely agree, if i were running a business where i could get free low skilled labour from an inexhaustible source i wouldn't hesitate to take it. surely if they are offering a 10:1 chance at a job they only employ 10% of the staff they need?
Apart from the fact that we have a silly amount of people who were pushed into Uni by Labour and are now graduating with degrees that have no prospects.
How not? I would offer to do it if I wanted a job.
why didn't you just apply for both, there's no guarantee applying for one job you will get it.
also just because you get offered a job you don't have to take it, if you have multiple offers.
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Jobcentres aren't worth 2 bob nowadays.
The unemployed that go through them are used as tools.
The same situation has happened to a mate of mine 4 times now. He gets a low paid warehouse job shredding paper on a month's trial. Once that trial is up and he's worked his nuts off for low money, they decide they are not taking him on. They ring up the jobcenter the next day for someone else.
easy peasy. Constant labour, no sick pay, no holidays, no responsibility. This is an aspect that needs looking at.
The unemployed that go through them are used as tools.
The same situation has happened to a mate of mine 4 times now. He gets a low paid warehouse job shredding paper on a month's trial. Once that trial is up and he's worked his nuts off for low money, they decide they are not taking him on. They ring up the jobcenter the next day for someone else.
easy peasy. Constant labour, no sick pay, no holidays, no responsibility. This is an aspect that needs looking at.
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Lots of these people did worthless degrees, these are the bunch who are now sat at home watching TV feeling entitled to a job which doesn't exist whilst refusing to go on these sort of JSA schemes.
I think the scheme would be brilliant if the company in question payed (obviously theough the council) the JSA instead of the government. They still get cheap labour, and it saves tax money as well. Double win. Hours should be capped at 4 full days or something similar though, so as to allow a day to actively job seek.
*may need tweaking but you get the jist*
*may need tweaking but you get the jist*
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Temping never normally pays badly and can often lead to a permenant position. Of course there has to be temp jobs available in the first place. We actually interviewed for temp work at my new employer! It used to be the agency sent a temp and if they were crap you sent them on their way and got another!
Both myself and a friend landed reasonably well paid jobs (mid £20-30k) from temping to perm in fields we had no experience in, ultimately it's not what we wanted or planned to do or really want to continue for ever but in this climate a job is a job and money is money.
Both myself and a friend landed reasonably well paid jobs (mid £20-30k) from temping to perm in fields we had no experience in, ultimately it's not what we wanted or planned to do or really want to continue for ever but in this climate a job is a job and money is money.
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Chippy08 said:
Yeah indeed, the funniest part will be in about 10-20 years time when unemployment has skyrocketed and half the people in this thread who think it's a great idea are also slaving away for these wealthy private businesses due to a lack of available jobs.
Governments will always plan many years in advance.
Nice ninja.
As far as I know, any store could recruit these workers.
The biggest down side for me would be the attitude of people who don't want to work then being forced to work. I can't imagine they're pleasant to work with.
It's particuarly abhorent since all this does is allow multi-million pound making enterprises to capitalise off cheap labour. I find it entirely immoral.
I don't think people should necessarily settle towards getting 'anything'. If a person is reasonably qualified, has experience and therefore good job prospects, I see no reason why we shouldn't support them for 4-6 months whilst they endeavour to gain suitable employment, providing they are doing all that can be reasonably be expected of them to get it.