Why don't they get a temp job to support themselves?
Bleeping furious right now!
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Why don't they get a temp job to support themselves?
To give you the literal answer of what I would do if I didn't have a job, I would go and live with my parents. To be honest I probably would never claim benefits but would borrow money from my parents until I got a job to pay them back. If I did claim benefits I would have some cash to get to and from work no problem.
If I didn't have any family to help out, I don't know what I would do as I don't know what benefits you get etc but all I would need to do is get to the place of work and I'm sure I could manage it somehow. Maybe on a bike or something.
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Im with you on this one dude (OP). I finished a BTEC national in ICT in June and I have a small part time job so I can refuse volountary but they like you too do quite a few hours as well. I asked for extra training for my career but they refused it (said it will come out of my job seekers if I did find a course). They are happy with everything sticking at the bottom but won't allow anyone to improve in life.
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Where is this magical job shop that so many on here seem to think exists?
That's probably appropriate for large numbers of people.
Come now. It's definitely not all it does, is it?
Fine....
Not all, but practically speaking that's the point of the entire excercise.
OP is saying his GF deserves to take OUR money or doing nothing, and to ask her to work is unfair...
everyone reading this thread with a job is PAYING for her to do nothing...
there will be people reading this who work their $%^ off and at the end of the month have nothing in their bank accounts...
Only other unemployed people, her friends and family will sympathise with OP... the only other people who will agree to some level will be people thinking its just a way of big industry getting free labour...
I think the OP may have been around here longer you know...
With a slight alteration I'd agree.
That they do the same amount of hours work, to earn pound for pound the money they receive.
JSA being £60 a week odd, which is about 10 hours a week work - that I'd accept as being "basically fair" anything less is giving an unfair business advantage & undermining our minimum wage laws.
Anybody in a low paid position should be weary of this kind of thing, if large companies realise they can start replacing low paid staff with free labour, it will only exasperate the current unemployment problem.
The point is, if there is a magical job at the end of these 2 weeks - why don't they just advertise for it now (like a normal job?)
I appreciate everyone's comments I understand how some people may see this as a good thing but in the end I don't agree, I think everyone should be treated individually and while this may be the best solution for some people who flat out refuse to work, I don't think the circumstances my girlfriend is in justifys it, I will tell her to just not go to the job centre any more.
Thank you everyone for they're comments again, I have to go back to work now (lunch over), I'm going to try and work harder today so that my taxes can pay more free labour for these major corporations who so badly need it.
Edit: One last thing thou I just want people to know, I would have no problem with her doing a few days a week charity or voluntary work for a good cause, but for these companies? No.
Thank you everyone for they're comments again, I have to go back to work now (lunch over), I'm going to try and work harder today so that my taxes can pay more free labour for these major corporations who so badly need it.
Edit: One last thing thou I just want people to know, I would have no problem with her doing a few days a week charity or voluntary work for a good cause, but for these companies? No.
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Because wouldn't applying for both look a little desperate, and from your point of view, if you got the same CV dropped on your desk for 2 different jobs, wouldn't you look at it like this
"Why has this guy applied for both jobs, when he has experience and a degree in marketing?, he obviously didn't think about it at all and just applied for everything he thought he could do"
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Oh dear god.
No one is saying working is unfair, but forcing her to work for nothing IS!
of course they should get anything they can, it doesn't mean settling. You can still apply for jobs once in a job.
I have agreed with 6month thing before but slowly changing my mind. 6months is to long to be out of a job and by then most people will of given up and just be sending the same rubbish generic cv out and keep getting rejected, they need help before that. It's not a perfect system but I have no issues with jobs for JSA/benefits.
It's a good scheme, Alas some companys take advantage of that. It's also legal which is a downer. But on the upside it's work experiance that goes on her cv.
You are always more likly to get a job while you are currently in a job as appose to the lower chance of getting one while ur not in a job :S
You are always more likly to get a job while you are currently in a job as appose to the lower chance of getting one while ur not in a job :S
get some second hand books off ebay, save up the £80 / £100 for some IT exams..... no offence but BTEC = no qualifications.. btec + a MS qual or two will get your foot in the door...
Basically this just encourages MR Manager to, when he has a job vacancy, fill it with a load of 'free labour' , reducing the number of real job vacanies and perpetuting the process.
Lols at those bemoaning there tax $, it's now lining the pocket of some corporate fat cat (who didn't have to pay wages to his new slave workforce) , the rich get richer....
Lols at those bemoaning there tax $, it's now lining the pocket of some corporate fat cat (who didn't have to pay wages to his new slave workforce) , the rich get richer....
I don't know what it is like in "aftica", but here in the UK unemployment has gone past 2.685 million. Now I pay my taxes so these 2.685 million people don't end up dying on the streets of malnutrition.
There are no where near 2.685 million jobs out there, and while many "doleys" don't want a job, it would be silly not to realise that the vast majority do. While work experience is always a good thing, what the OP is describing isn't work experience, its free labor.
I don't think you understand why you pay taxes at all do you?
Also, people who see this for what it is - a blatant attempt to sidestep our minimum wage laws which ensure a basic income for the poorest in society.
You do know some of the companies which are been given the green light for these are donors to certain political parties?.
Slight conflict of interests me thinks...
Donate money to us, we will give you free labour!.
she is paid already. she is only being asked to do some work for her previously free money.... unfair? is she disabled? crippled? Ill? spending all day looking for a job / taking interviews?