Bleeping furious right now!

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I'm currently finishing off at college and looking for a part-time job at the same time. I'm on JSA and the same thing was brought up in one of my meetings, except I was happy to take the experience because quite frankly, I need it. What annoyed me was that none of the places who wanted workers for FREE would take me on because I couldn't do 5 days a week (I could only do 3 due to college). My 'advisor' then moaned and blamed me being at college for the reason why I can't get any work, despite the fact that places are willing to turn away free workers just because they can't do an extra few days a week. They are completely useless.
 
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Agree with people on jobseekers having to work for their money, but the way they are going about implementing it is all wrong.

It's just being abused by all these companies.
 
Woden said:
I don't know what it is like in "aftica", but here in the UK unemployment has gone past 2.685 million. Now I pay my taxes so these 2.685 million people don't end up dying on the streets of malnutrition.

There are no where near 2.685 million jobs out there, and while many "doleys" don't want a job, it would be silly not to realise that the vast majority do. While work experience is always a good thing, what the OP is describing isn't work experience, its free labor.

I don't think you understand why you pay taxes at all do you?
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+1.

People like that like to pretend that anybody who actually has a social conscious is poor/out of work - which isn't remotely true.
 
Woden said:
I don't know what it is like in "aftica", but here in the UK unemployment has gone past 2.685 million. Now I pay my taxes so these 2.685 million people don't end up dying on the streets of malnutrition.

There are no where near 2.685 million jobs out there, and while many "doleys" don't want a job, it would be silly not to realise that the vast majority do. While work experience is always a good thing, what the OP is describing isn't work experience, its free labor.

I don't think you understand why you pay taxes at all do you?
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:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Brightened up my day, thanks lol
 
Is it me or am I wrong in thinking that people that refer to "crappy minimum wage job" are basically what’s wrong with this country and benefit system. I know it’s a bit of a sweeping statement. But my point is that too many people seem to think that with no or minimum job experience, qualifications that they will just apply and walk into high paying jobs?

I started on minimum wage working 3 different jobs around college no ema (another joke people should get part time jobs) and I came from a poor background. The point basically being in my mind is that you have to start at the bottom with a crappy job and work your way up. It’s better to have a job on minimum wage doing something you might not enjoy then just sitting on benefits because you’re not prepared to do a job that you don’t like or want to do. Not everyone gets the job they want people it’s a small and simple fact of life the idea is basically you work to get money while looking for different jobs maybe ones you have an interest in.

The principle being that if more people had this way of thinking the country wouldn’t have such a big benefit culture. I worked in a KFC, bar and office admin all those jobs sucked but I was earning and had some pride that at least my money was my own.

Going back to topic 1/10 chance of getting a job is harsh yes but if she lacks experience it could be a good tool to put something on the CV. If she works hard a good reference is always helpful plus she could be lucky enough to get a job which she can use as a platform to find something better while earning more money.

Rant over apologies
 
If you are on jobseekers for longer than 3 months, you should be forced to do 1 day a week for your money. Not working for a big corporation, but more like local services, charity shops, that sort of thing. Even then though, you'll find there is not enough call for that.
 
I would take the (free) job and work hardest there to make sure I got the job at the end of it if it was all that was going, but then I am all for old fashioned hard work - something the UK seems to forget about.

Also, its not for free because she is claiming benefits. Sure it sucks balls, but c'est la vie.
 
edscdk said:
she is paid already. she is only being asked to do some work for her previously free money.... unfair? is she disabled? crippled? Ill? spending all day looking for a job / taking interviews?
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HALF of what you get from JSA is for "living".

the other half is to help you get to and from places while looking for work - and depending on the area you live in that is costly and the amount of jobs actually out there is tiny

JSA is not for pre-paid labour.
 
Jay794 said:
Because wouldn't applying for both look a little desperate, and from your point of view, if you got the same CV dropped on your desk for 2 different jobs, wouldn't you look at it like this

"Why has this guy applied for both jobs, when he has experience and a degree in marketing?, he obviously didn't think about it at all and just applied for everything he thought he could do"
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Desperate to who, they don't find out about each other. If your only applying for one job at a time that's a massive fail.
 
edscdk said:
she is paid already. she is only being asked to do some work for her previously free money.... unfair? is she disabled? crippled? Ill? spending all day looking for a job / taking interviews?
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Hope you lose your job and end up having to work as a toilet cleaner for 2 months, for nothing. Jeez.
 
robfosters said:
If you are on jobseekers for longer than 3 months, you should be forced to do 1 day a week for your money. Not working for a big corporation, but more like local services, charity shops, that sort of thing. Even then though, you'll find there is not enough call for that.
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Some people actually do volunteer work to add on their CV's (i know i have done myself) but being forced to do it is another thing all together

Izi said:
I would take the (free) job and work hardest there to make sure I got the job at the end of it if it was all that was going, but then I am all for old fashioned hard work - something the UK seems to forget about.

Also, its not for free because she is claiming benefits. Sure it sucks balls, but c'est la vie.
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You would work your "hardest" for nothing then, less than 5% actually get a job after it all they just wait for the next batch of doleys to do the work (thats why shops like primark,works etc are messy most the time - the people working there could care less)
 
Jambo said:
If I didn't have any family to help out, I don't know what I would do as I don't know what benefits you get etc but all I would need to do is get to the place of work and I'm sure I could manage it somehow. Maybe on a bike or something.
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One would have to be mighty desperate to work 2 months for free. It's such a selfish suggestion.

Imagine, at the end of the two months they let you go. You're going to be so mad!
 
The idea is sound but the hours are too long, it gives her no time to continue looking for work elsewhere because lets face it the chances of them employing her is pretty slim for huge effort.

OP, why dont you employ her for £50 worth of genuine self employed work a week, should get them off her back and allow her to continue to search for other jobs? I only mention that because you seem willing to support her anyway?
 
Glaucus said:
Desperate to who, they don't find out about each other. If your only applying for one job at a time that's a massive fail.
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Desperate to the MD of the company, who's going through the CV's for all the jobs maybe? Did I not mention both these jobs were at the same company?
 
I personally don't agree with Private companys or Corporations getting this "Free" labour but I have no problem at all with the unemployed doing Community work. Litter picking, Park maintenance & even setting up a Help OAP project as well where OAP's can get some free labour for gardening/decorating etc.
 
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