[BleepingComputer] UK Passes the Most Extreme Surveillance Law in the History of Western Democracy
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All the news coming out of government with regard to technology lately is very, very bad. May becoming PM is terrible for anyone valuing online privacy or being able to access legal content without the government playing 'nanny'.
Down with this sort of thing!
Down with this sort of thing!
So I guess the question for those with more knowledge on the sort of infostructure needed for a system like this.
It's not officially law yet and still has to be signed in (at least that's what I read), once it is, I assume we would know, how long to put a system like this together? or can it just be cobbled together in weeks from cloud providers?
It's not officially law yet and still has to be signed in (at least that's what I read), once it is, I assume we would know, how long to put a system like this together? or can it just be cobbled together in weeks from cloud providers?
isp's already log users web history so the only difference now they have to keep it for a year and let them have access to it
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Data collection is the commodity of the 21st century!
People who think its okay and "I've got nothing to hide" are being naïve. Have people not learnt anything from wikileaks or snowden?!?
The websites you visit, the purchases you make, the people you communicate with, the pictures you take and upload and share, your online banking, your logins and passwords.......
If the data gets into the wrong hands it could be detrimental.
Do you really trust the British Government?
People who think its okay and "I've got nothing to hide" are being naïve. Have people not learnt anything from wikileaks or snowden?!?
The websites you visit, the purchases you make, the people you communicate with, the pictures you take and upload and share, your online banking, your logins and passwords.......
If the data gets into the wrong hands it could be detrimental.
Do you really trust the British Government?
but it says Communications operators must remove their side of encryption and help state agencies access data or devices.
Yeah, "Communications Operators" is a bit vague, but we can only assume it means OTT ("over the top") services such as Signal, Skype, WhatsApp etc. With Skype it's likely easy - Skype is now client/server (used to use a hybrid client/server/P2P model where the actual voice streams were between clients only) and doesn't use end-to-end encryption (as far as I know, the data is plain but sent along an encrypted channel between client and server), so tapping the server for voice streams and metadata is likely quite possible.
WhatsApp and Signal use end-to-end encryption, so even the servers can't decrypt the messages or voice streams.
That information is worth MILLIONS to some people who I am sure will do ANYTHING to get their hands on it.
This is not something you can quietly "put back in the box" once it is out.
Sad times indeed.
Such information should only EVER be available if a judge sees solid evidence to suggest it is needed. Even then, I am sceptical.
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Gonna end up a massive own goal as far as the "ostensible" reason goes - as I said those involved in criminal or terrorist activities, actually organised and hiding behind encryption will simply change to another method, those that are more sloppy and can be caught would be caught anyhow by other methods meanwhile you've just made everyone more vulnerable to criminal exploitation - slow handclap.
The reality is this is about power and not protecting people.
You hit the nail on the head Rroff.
Has been given royal assent now.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...l-becomes-law-extending-uk-state-surveillance
"The Home Office says some of the provisions in the act will require extensive testing and will not be in place for some time. However, powers to require web and phone companies to collect customers’ communications data will be in force before 31 December, the date when the current Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Act 2014 expires."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...l-becomes-law-extending-uk-state-surveillance
"The Home Office says some of the provisions in the act will require extensive testing and will not be in place for some time. However, powers to require web and phone companies to collect customers’ communications data will be in force before 31 December, the date when the current Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Act 2014 expires."
Sure it will. Just like the suspects being known to intelligence before the French attacks in November stopped that.
Huge amounts of private info, in the hands a goverment that leaves confindetial stuff on trains/benches etc, what could possible go wrong.
Huge amounts of private info, in the hands a goverment that leaves confindetial stuff on trains/benches etc, what could possible go wrong.
It's the ones which are stopped we often never get to know about.
Hah I thought the exact same thing when I read dooksy's post.
There's absolutely no reason to believe that it will do so.
I presume you work in intelligence or law enforcement to be able to back the comment up?
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I think they've been spying on us for years already anyway,I have nothing to hide so couldn't care less,Like mentioned..as long as its done for the right reasons.
My only concearn is Internet providers pushing up the cost to the customers to store all this data..we pay to be spied on
My only concearn is Internet providers pushing up the cost to the customers to store all this data..we pay to be spied on