Blueyonder/Telewest speed upgrades

wush said:
Again: not being the absolute best does not mean we're in the dark ages.

Please name all of these top nations which are way ahead of us.

America
Sweden
Germany
France
Korea
Pakistan
China
Japan
poland
finland

Theres a few :) Shall i add the congo? YAY we are way ahead of those.
 
I would think being "the best of the G8 countries" puts us pretty high up the leagues!!

So far I have only seen a small number of customers in Sweden and South Korea as having access to anything faster. So for the average person in this country, it surely puts us ahead of the average person elsewhere?

Dark Ages..... some people don't know when they have something good. :D


LOL.... that list. What does it mean? It is so out of context. Are we talking max available speeds? Access that everyone can get? Darn... go talk to a Texan about web access out in the desert....

That list needs to have something to back it up. Like a URL to a news story.


Go and get an education ninja. :) (Man.... you are far too easy to wind up.... LOL)


BTW - "America" is the name of two continents. I assume you mean the USA? :D
 
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I doubt Germany, France or America are way ahead of the UK, if at all.

We've already mentioned parts of Scandinavia and Asia. The super fast services in these countries are only available to small numbers of households.
 
ThE-NiNjA said:
Also an asumption.
No it's not, it's the meaning of the words you typed. "Global scale" by definition means taking the world as a whole, not just a few isolated countries.
Of course if you compare outselfs to countrys that dont have BB then we will be infront no doubt.
Yes well that's the point isn't it? You can't just compare us to more advanced places like Sweden or Korea, you have to include all the less advanced ones to produce an overall picture if you're talking about the "global scale".
But as the UK and a leader in many things wouldnt you want to compare yourself to other top nations ? or shall we compare it to say india? pakistan? korea? who also happen to have superior technology in relation to this thread.
As I just said, you have to include everyone to get a comparison on the "global scale", so yes they'd be included too. I still reckon that, on average, we're in perfectly good shape compared to the rest of the world, and far from the "dark ages".
What would be the reasons for BY not to introduce a wider range or packages?
Primarily billing problems. This is from an official Telewest spokesman on their newsgroups last year.
does uplaod stream really cost them that much ?
Yes it does, again my source is from an official Telewest spokesperson on their newsgroups last year.
has nyone got some specifics on upstream bandwith and the cost it costs isps ?
Not specifics no, but I do know that upstream bandwidth is hugely expensive to the cable companies as the network was never designed for it. The system was designed to provide masses of downstream bandwidth for broadcasts but only a small amount of upstream for return signals for things like interactivity and home shopping etc.
 
Ninja - are you quoting the OECD figures? i.e. the ones about the percentage of the population that have actually signed up to broadband access?

I just did a quick search for "Broadband Speed Table" on The Register, and have found a table similar to what you quote. But you are using it to answer a different question. El Reg Broadband Search

Looking at that is interesting. In 2002 we were in a embarresing place. Now we are moving up at speed. And this article from 2004 seems to think we will soon be past Germany and France.

OECD Results


My question was more about actual average and max speeds available. :)
 
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Vertigo1 said:
The won't do it but it's for billing reasons more than technical ones. They limit the number of accounts to one per address and the number of HSI connections to one per account.

There are obviously blocks of flats where there are multiple accounts and I've heard accounts of people obtaining two separate accounts, each with its own HSI connection, by "sub-dividing" their address into flat numbers :)

I'm wondering whether if you were to explain it was shared accomodation and the new account was in a different name to the original they may buy it?!

Or - taking residential service plus their business BB service (which at last count was 2mb down/512k up for £125 pcm)?

D.
 
Basically you can get away with it but you run the risk of them finding out and disconnecting you completely, and permanently, which isn't worth it really. This subject is probably best not discussed on the forums tbh as it's a bit dodgy really.

The routers simply load balance by selecting which WAN link to use for each connection based on prevailing load at the time, so if you start two downloads they'd each use a separate WAN link.
 
I would have thought an ISP would have been happy to hire two lines, to two different BT phone numbers. It's just like being two customers.

The average business have separate voice and fax numbers. And I often see that fax number shared with the ADSL line. So what would technically stop them adding another phone line for a second ADSL line?

As long as you are paying your bills for the extra lines, then I can't see how it would be wrong?


If someone really wants/needs fast upload speeds, then why not talk to BT and the big business ISPs like Demon about leased lines? Expensive options that exisit for the big boys to have big bandwidth. So while these are still being sold, they are not going to go too mad with ADSL speeds.
 
ThE-NiNjA said:
Look a don has asked to stop the nonsense! wich i have. now id apreciate it if you would stop the spouting of rubbish aswell.
And I'm not asking. I'm telling. Walk away from the thread.
 
MAllen said:
Ninja - are you quoting the OECD figures? i.e. the ones about the percentage of the population that have actually signed up to broadband access?

I just did a quick search for "Broadband Speed Table" on The Register, and have found a table similar to what you quote. But you are using it to answer a different question. El Reg Broadband Search

Looking at that is interesting. In 2002 we were in a embarresing place. Now we are moving up at speed. And this article from 2004 seems to think we will soon be past Germany and France.

OECD Results


My question was more about actual average and max speeds available. :)

No doubt in my mind we are moving up, and moving up fast, but we still have a way to go. if we are ever going to get in a real respectable palce, ithin kthe goverment has to have a helping hand because its simple going to cost any company too much.
 
If you want people to stop posting, Gilly. Lock it. Simple. The forum is for people to chat, not for you to tell them to get lost.
 
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I can't wait to move out of my house anyway, I can only get 512k. :(. Where as a friend of mine has 8mb. (Lucky dude!:()
 
rsturbolad said:
Unsure how dual WAN routers split traffic, but is this something that the load balancing element should sort out??

That's how the load balancing works. It won't give you the combined bandwidth of both lines in a single connection (which is what I was getting at).

Ice on Fire said:
The forum is for people to chat, not for you to tell them to get lost.

There's a difference between conversation/debate, and taking things too far.
 
Wow this is amazing news, good on Blueyonder for sorting this. I hope as everyone does my region is high up the list.. Otherwise some maybe waiting until the christmas period before recieving the upgrade!

If anyone actually recieves this upgrade in the next month, it would be interesting to hear what you think of it, and what 'region' you are in.

Great NEws! ;)
 
TomaHawk said:
Wow this is amazing news, good on Blueyonder for sorting this. I hope as everyone does my region is high up the list.. Otherwise some maybe waiting until the christmas period before recieving the upgrade!
Well they're projecting completion in early 2006, but the last round of upgrades were supposed to take a few months and were done much quicker so I wouldn't be surprised if these were all done by the end of October.

As to who will get done when, that's always the question. In the past they've said that a schedule would be posted online but it never was. They're saying the same this time and since there's a rollout schedule posted for Teleport, perhaps they'll keep their word and post one for the upgrades.

Obviously I'm also hoping I'm high up the list but whenever it arrives the ugprade will be welcome. In the first upgrade I was fairly near the end, whilst in the second I was around the middle so let's hope the progression continues :)
 
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