BMW and M Power Owners

grudas · 18 Apr 2017 at 11:07

Hitman_UK said:
It's the 2.0i sorry forgot to say!

similar running costs to 2.5/3.0's yet no poke! in my opinion the worst engine to go into a z4, from z4 forums it also is one of the least reliable engines BMW made with common warning lights and other problems.

car looks nice condition but engine in my opinion is terrible for a z4. - no offence of course, enjoy and hopefully it does treat you well.

Hitman_UK · 18 Apr 2017 at 11:40

grudas said:
similar running costs to 2.5/3.0's yet no poke! in my opinion the worst engine to go into a z4, from z4 forums it also is one of the least reliable engines BMW made with common warning lights and other problems.

car looks nice condition but engine in my opinion is terrible for a z4. - no offence of course, enjoy and hopefully it does treat you well.

Oh that doesn't sound good

I've only been driving 11 months so I went for the smaller engine plus the cheaper tax and slightly better mpg, plus it's feels a lot faster than my 1.4 polo

grudas · 18 Apr 2017 at 11:46

Hitman_UK said:
Oh that doesn't sound good I've only been driving 11 months so I went for the smaller engine plus the cheaper tax and slightly better mpg, plus it's feels a lot faster than my 1.4 polo

I was reading this -; http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=96175

just this morning

[TW]Fox · 18 Apr 2017 at 13:13

ChrisD. said:
Okay thanks I'll look into it.

How good is the BMW traffic information? Am I still better off using Google maps on my iPhone?

The dealership wants to hurry up, I can't wait to pick it up!

Imho it's good enough to not want to faff about fixing phones to the dash.

Hitman_UK · 18 Apr 2017 at 13:15

grudas said:
I was reading this -; http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=96175

just this morning

You think I should get rid of it at some point soon then? only got 64k on clock at the moment..

grudas · 18 Apr 2017 at 13:30

Hitman_UK said:
You think I should get rid of it at some point soon then? only got 64k on clock at the moment..

Sounds like false economy to get rid!

I'd say enjoy it and if it is too unreliable then have a think and see if it's costing you too much. You might run it for another 20-30k and have no issues haha.

badgeruk · 18 Apr 2017 at 13:34

Keep it and enjoy it. If you really like the car you could always get a bigger engine after you have been driving for longer/saved up monies (as I did).

Dis86 · 18 Apr 2017 at 13:48

Think it'll be much fun especially after the polo. Run it. See if you enjoy it. If you do can always get a more powerful variant later.

ChrisD. · 18 Apr 2017 at 13:55

[TW]Fox said:
Imho it's good enough to not want to faff about fixing phones to the dash.

Thanks, am I right in saying I need connected drive activating which is £40 a year?

Scottland · 18 Apr 2017 at 14:04

As a recent member to the BMW fold, I've been pleasantly surprised by the Pro Nav (with RTTI).

Hitman_UK · 18 Apr 2017 at 14:12

Well to say I have pretty happy with the MPG this morning my from 31 mil work commute

Lustral · 18 Apr 2017 at 14:17

Hitman_UK said:
Well to say I have pretty happy with the MPG this morning my from 31 mil work commute

Crushes my 25.3 MPGs this morning , although the front was covered in blood and guts of flys

Dis86 · 18 Apr 2017 at 15:25

Argh, a weird squeak has developed in mine today. Doesn't seem to be from the suspension and can only hear it at low speeds.

Havana_UK · 18 Apr 2017 at 15:27

Dis86 said:
Argh, a weird squeak has developed in mine today. Doesn't seem to be from the suspension and can only hear it at low speeds.

Drive faster?

Dis86 · 18 Apr 2017 at 15:41

See...i've tried that. It's fun!

Still have to go slow along the road to my house though, oh and on the driveway!

Brok · 18 Apr 2017 at 15:41

Havana_UK said:
There's no increased performance in sport mode vs comfort mode, but the throttle pedal position mapping is totally changed which can make it feel much faster. In reality the throttle pedal is just "longer" in confort mode, which can actually make it much easier to control throttle input because in sport mode a small input has a big effect.

Is this truly the only difference? From my experience it also holds the car at higher revs (generally leading to a lower gear selection than comfort) so the throttle response feels a lot more immediate.

It also changes the weight of the steering and stiffens the suspension making it feel 'sportier'.

Havana_UK · 18 Apr 2017 at 15:45

Brok said:
Is this truly the only difference? From my experience it also holds the car at higher revs (generally leading to a lower gear selection than comfort) so the throttle response feels a lot more immediate.

It also changes the weight of the steering and stiffens the suspension making it feel 'sportier'.

No, it's not the only difference, but it's the main change that makes it feel like you have higher performance (when you don't).

In Sport and Sport+ modes the car will hold a lower gear, and if you flip the selector over to M/S this will also hold a gear lower as well. It also makes the steering heavier, and if you have adaptive dampers it will also stiffen them up (but do nothing to the suspension if you don't have them), but above all it's the change to the throttle pedal position mapping that makes the big difference to how the car's performance "feels".

Brok · 18 Apr 2017 at 15:59

Ah ok, I do have adaptive suspension so that would explain it. Thanks for the clarification.

alx · 18 Apr 2017 at 15:59

Havana_UK said:
No, it's not the only difference, but it's the main change that makes it feel like you have higher performance (when you don't).

In Sport and Sport+ modes the car will hold a lower gear, and if you flip the selector over to M/S this will also hold a gear lower as well. It also makes the steering heavier, and if you have adaptive dampers it will also stiffen them up (but do nothing to the suspension if you don't have them), but above all it's the change to the throttle pedal position mapping that makes the big difference to how the car's performance "feels".

Guess it depends what gearbox you have, but with the DCT Sport and Sport+ makes the gear shifts faster, and Sport+ also reduces how much the traction control kicks in as well.

As you say though you don't get any more power, but you could argue the more aggressive gearbox settings means you'll accelerate slightly quicker.

Havana_UK · 18 Apr 2017 at 16:13

Don't the cars with DCT boxes (e.g. proper M cars, except the M2) have a separate control for gearbox aggressiveness?

I'm not sure if Sport/Sport+ impacts shift speed on the ZF8 though...I bet Fox does!