BMW and M Power Owners

IAmATeaf · 3 Apr 2018 at 12:25

The auto wipers on my f30 defy any logic or common sense, almost like there’s a random number generator dictating how fast they will wipe rather than the amount of rain and speed of car . Not found a setting yet which just works.

[TW]Fox · 3 Apr 2018 at 13:06

Scania said:
It’s got Professional Navigation, yes, we rang BMW (rather than the dealer) yesterday and they said the connected drive had expired as it was registered in 2015 (28/11/15) and “its now 2018 which is 3 years” which we both thought a bit of a poor attitude, I confirmed that the accident assistant would carry on working to which they replied it’s for the life of the car and she’s happy with that and they also said the previous owner had paid for map updates which last until November 2018.

Having looked through the connected drive page I can’t see much that’s worth the £240 they are asking for, certainty nothing she’ll use I’d say, my sisters M4 and 1 series both have it and when I asked her if she uses it much she didn’t even know it had it! - we probably won’t bother.

I suspect its one of the models whereby it wasn't included, its 3 years from new if it was.

The realtime traffic information is extremely useful and remote services are quite cool. You don't need to pay £240 - thats for everything and stuff like Concierge is pointless.

You can buy Realtime traffic on its own for about £50 a year and if you buy one thing you'll get Remote Services included - so 50 quid a year for the useful stuff.

theone8181 · 3 Apr 2018 at 13:12

[TW]Fox said:
I suspect its one of the models whereby it wasn't included, its 3 years from new if it was.

The realtime traffic information is extremely useful and remote services are quite cool. You don't need to pay £240 - thats for everything and stuff like Concierge is pointless.

You can buy Realtime traffic on its own for about £50 a year and if you buy one thing you'll get Remote Services included - so 50 quid a year for the useful stuff.

Do all modern BM's charge for things like that then? Do you get map updates for free?

Liquidfox · 3 Apr 2018 at 13:20

chroniclard said:
Surely the button option is better as it defaults to off. What if the wipers are stuck with snow or ice.

Supposedly it detects this and doesn't activate them.

leoncuprar · 3 Apr 2018 at 13:29

Gaze into your crystal ball.....

If I were to purchase this

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classi...rice-from=4000&price-to=50000&make=BMW&page=1

I wondered what it might be worth come resale in ~ 3 years time with approx. 95k miles on it. ?
I'm just a little worried about future resale value with the ongoing decline of the diesel market.

Scania · 3 Apr 2018 at 13:57

[TW]Fox said:
The realtime traffic information is extremely useful and remote services are quite cool. You don't need to pay £240 - thats for everything and stuff like Concierge is pointless.

You can buy Realtime traffic on its own for about £50 a year and if you buy one thing you'll get Remote Services included - so 50 quid a year for the useful stuff.

Ahh, that changes things, we looked and thought a lot of it was pointless but the real-time traffic was one thing she liked in her old Focus and the remote services is cool, I’ll take another look, cheers.

Scania · 3 Apr 2018 at 14:04

leoncuprar said:
Gaze into your crystal ball.....

If I were to purchase this

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201803214779806?maximum-mileage=45000&advertising-location=at_cars&seller-type=trade&model=5 SERIES&radius=1500&year-from=2012&onesearchad=Used&sort=sponsored&postcode=b504dr&aggregatedTrim=535d&price-from=4000&price-to=50000&make=BMW&page=1

*I wondered what it might be worth come resale in ~ 3 years time with approx. 95k miles on it. ?
I'm just a little worried about future resale value with the ongoing decline of the diesel market.

Just had a look on A/T selecting 2012 and ~90k miles and came up with this,
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201801042438933?minimum-mileage=90000&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=st56qy&model=5 SERIES&sort=price-desc&page=1&aggregatedTrim=535d&make=BMW&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New
assuming the diesel hatred continues and ignoring the dealers margin I’d guess it’ll probably be ballpark £11k* give or take (maybe a lot!).

I don’t have a ball, crystal or otherwise!

Akagi · 3 Apr 2018 at 15:23

IAmATeaf said:
The auto wipers on my f30 defy any logic or common sense, almost like there’s a random number generator dictating how fast they will wipe rather than the amount of rain and speed of car . Not found a setting yet which just works.

Bet they work better than the ones on my Toyota.

Would happily get rid of them in favour of normal intermittent wipers.

In fact I might do that.

IAmATeaf · 3 Apr 2018 at 17:59

Acme said:
Bet they work better than the ones on my Toyota.

Would happily get rid of them in favour of normal intermittent wipers.

In fact I might do that.

My Accord had normal variable intermittent, analogue variable, none of this step rubbish and they worked wonderfully well but the ones on the F30 have the Goldilocks syndrome, they are either too fast or too slow.

Basher · 3 Apr 2018 at 18:03

[TW]Fox said:
I suspect its one of the models whereby it wasn't included, its 3 years from new if it was.

The realtime traffic information is extremely useful and remote services are quite cool. You don't need to pay £240 - thats for everything and stuff like Concierge is pointless.

You can buy Realtime traffic on its own for about £50 a year and if you buy one thing you'll get Remote Services included - so 50 quid a year for the useful stuff.

Strange, when I go to buy RTTI on the portal it says it can't be purchased for my vehicle (F10 530D)

[TW]Fox · 3 Apr 2018 at 18:11

Basher said:
Strange, when I go to buy RTTI on the portal it says it can't be purchased for my vehicle (F10 530D)

Do you have NBT or CIC iDrive?

Only NBT fitted vehicles can purchase items seperately, annoyingly - for CIC its all or nothing (Though all is £120 a year, so cheaper than all on NBT).

[TW]Fox · 3 Apr 2018 at 18:14

Scania said:
Ahh, that changes things, we looked and thought a lot of it was pointless but the real-time traffic was one thing she liked in her old Focus and the remote services is cool, I’ll take another look, cheers.

The Focus didn't have realtime traffic it had TMC (Traffic Message Channel). This broadcasts over FM and sends out messages on events rather than traffic flow. You get this as well free of charge without subscription on the BMW - RTTI is an upgrade over that

Scania · 3 Apr 2018 at 20:44

[TW]Fox said:
The Focus didn't have realtime traffic it had TMC (Traffic Message Channel). This broadcasts over FM and sends out messages on events rather than traffic flow. You get this as well free of charge without subscription on the BMW - RTTI is an upgrade over that

My mistake, I thought it amounted to the same thing, we’ll definitely opt for that.

Thanks again Fox.

Chris1712 · 4 Apr 2018 at 10:30

Previous owner of a beautiful E86 Coupe which I adored. Sold on nearly 2 years ago.

https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=87963

Went from a 0 mile commute to a 26 mile each way commute and then moved into a 330e Hybrid which is frankly an exceptional tool, but so lacking in soul.
Have just thrown my sensible hat in the bin and fisted the kumquat on a E89 35iS! I know the fuel and depreciation is going to be staggering on my mileage but I miss loving my car.

Rubbish dealer pics for now, weather has been terrible since I collected it!

I know it's a bif of a marmite spec (or Jaffa spec?) but honestly since the day they launched the 'Pure Traction' spec with the facelift I have wanted one. This is the exact spec I would have gone for if I was lucky enough to buy new, so I had to have it. The only question is whether to get the roof wrapped black? It's definitely a step up from the 3.0si, bags of torque and properly fast. I still don't know why it doesn't have an M badge on it, but hey if that means I can afford to buy and service it then great.

Anyway it's great to be back, fingers crossed to years more Z ownership joy

Dis86 · 4 Apr 2018 at 11:04

Ha! I looked at that one. I couldn't get away with the orange interior trim (don't mind the seats and stitching). Definitely agree on the black roof wrap.

Ryan-3 · 4 Apr 2018 at 11:05

Do love that. Personally wouldn't change the roof colour though.

Uncle_Gravy · 4 Apr 2018 at 11:18

After my Accord I'd like to return to a Z4, E86 or a 35 E89, I still have my Z4 3.0i, currently been sat for over a month not doing anything, But my dad is soon going to have it, he know's the list of things that need sorting on it so good luck to him xD

melmac · 4 Apr 2018 at 13:01

Chris1712 said:
Anyway it's great to be back, fingers crossed to years more Z ownership joy

It looks kind of like the Honda S2000. I like the look of it.

And, life is too short, as long as you aren't putting yourself in money trouble then drive the car that you love to drive.

blun · 4 Apr 2018 at 15:08

Scania said:
My mistake, I thought it amounted to the same thing, we’ll definitely opt for that.

Thanks again Fox.

I really wouldn't pay for RTTI - it's utterly rubbish compared to the level of detail you get with Google maps. It only works when there's loads of traffic (I presume because it only crowd-sources data from modern BMWs). Compare that to Google Maps which often knows how many yards long the queue at the next traffic light is!

I wish BMW would just licence Google's traffic info.

Django x2 · 4 Apr 2018 at 16:51

blun said:
I really wouldn't pay for RTTI - it's utterly rubbish compared to the level of detail you get with Google maps. It only works when there's loads of traffic (I presume because it only crowd-sources data from modern BMWs). Compare that to Google Maps which often knows how many yards long the queue at the next traffic light is!

I wish BMW would just licence Google's traffic info.

Eh? It uses a combination of both. I've never found RTTI to be inaccurate, not to the levels of "utterly rubbish", whereas WAZE has failed to inform me of a closed road when RTTI told me it was shut