BMW and M Power Owners
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Hence me buying a m140i, cant forsee a time when an M is attainable for me.
Perhaps a nice 19/20 340 in 5 years
Perhaps a nice 19/20 340 in 5 years
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Did t realise they were that expensive, mines not really cost me anything more over a normal car. I am paying for a warranty though, just incase
. I just thought if you're going to spend/mess with an mlite car
D), it would be easier/cheaper to just get a proper one in the first place. What makes me laugh is I believe the f80 gen 320d (again can't remember numbers
) has bigger discs than the e92 m3.
. I just thought if you're going to spend/mess with an mlite carD), it would be easier/cheaper to just get a proper one in the first place. What makes me laugh is I believe the f80 gen 320d (again can't remember numbers) has bigger discs than the e92 m3.
It's not that much more expensive. If you are spending tens of thousands on a fun car then a few hundred pounds extra each year is nothing.
If you take the pay monthly service plan for example
https://www.bmw.co.uk/en/topics/owners/service-workshop/servicing/pay-monthly-service-plan.html
It's £540 per year instead of £240 per year.
Things like discs and pads aren't massively different either.
If you take the pay monthly service plan for example
https://www.bmw.co.uk/en/topics/owners/service-workshop/servicing/pay-monthly-service-plan.html
It's £540 per year instead of £240 per year.
Things like discs and pads aren't massively different either.
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It isn't a few hundred pounds extra per year. For a start the equivalent F80 is at least £10k more than an M140i, the warranty is well over a grand a year versus 300 quid a year (a total bargain) for the 1 Series.
You can buy a virtually brand new M140 for less than a tired and worn 7 year old F80.
They are just in different leagues.
I didn't mention the warranty. Consumables aren't massively different which would turn it from affordable to unaffordable. We aren't talking supercar money.
As for initial outlay, that's not money that is instantly burnt and again I suspect for most people the difference doesn't suddenly change the budget bracket.
People who buy cars like the m140i could likely just as easily buy an m2 or older m3. The additional cost increase versus their overall income likely won't be significant.
Did t realise they were that expensive, mines not really cost me anything more over a normal car. I am paying for a warranty though, just incase
Completely agree.
It costs more, but the idea if you are spending £30k+ on a car the increased costs are suddenly that material is misleading.
But they largely don't want to. Do you drive an F80 M3?
Cars like the M140 are great as they offer excellent performance but with more normal BMW ownership costs. Genuine M power cars are in another league both in terms of ownership costs and also capability. Not everyone wants that capability or feels the need to pay for it, either in terms of extra cash outlay or in driving a car twice as old.
No I do not.
But if I was going down the route of buying an M Car or modifying something lower down, I know which I'd go for. I wouldn't worry about the running costs increase.
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I will note that the person that started this conversation is looking at a used m140i. So that does change things a lot which is fair enough and so my comments don't really apply.
https://www.superchips.co.uk/ECU-Remap/BMW/5-Series/Diesel/535d-SE-2993cc-313bhp/2012/vrm
My Merc diesel was a lot better after seeing these guys...just a thought as those numbers are rather good
I had a Bluefin Superchips map on the S-Max I had years ago. Was actually pretty decent (15% extra BHP, 25% extra NM).
I'm not convinced a large family estate car that does 0-60 in a shade over 5 seconds really needs to go up from 315PS and 650NM up to ~375 BHP and 750NM... but maybe it would be lol. PMKeates had that remapped e60 535D which was really quick though....
But you've not done this so it's entirely hypothetical isn't it.
If I was looking at buying a new Ferrari I'd definitely get a used Veyron instead.
Why do you think cla engine is better ? a bit more power, torque curve ....
equally (but that's the better car aspect), with 300bhp through front wheels, not sure if they have something special for torque steer; has dct gearbox too versus zf.
It's not a bit more power, it's 50% more power. It is a considerably quicker car than a 320i.
It's 4wd not fwd.
Soldato
Would suggest you do some reading before you decide. When I got my 335i I really wanted an M3, then did some background reading on running costs, simple things like brake pads and disk costs between the 2, decided a 335i would better suit my pocket and tightness
I've been now actively following the M140i market for a month, if we include on/off searching it'll be longer. It doesn't seem like the cars sell, unless they're fully loaded and well below the market value or they're sold by BMW Specialist garage. There's nearly 500 cars on AT alone, not including marketplace and bay. Oo
I assumed you were wrong with this number as it couldn't possibly be the case that there were this many of a fairly specialist model for sale. But you're not. That's a staggering amount of one particular high performance version of a car to be for sale at the same time. I've never seen anything like it, I can't imagine how useful it must be to decide on a car and have that many to choose from!
