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Where should I price my E46 330Ci at?

2004, '54' plate, 103k miles, full BMW service history, Orient Blue with cream leather and carbon trim, bluetooth, Harman Kardon and sunroof (promise that wasn't an ad.. :p)

Getting the itch for something new, possibly. Just testing the water at the moment :)

e; it's the sport, with 3 previous owners.
 
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Sold my 2002 "02", 125k mile, 7 previous owner, FSH, HK and sunroof E46 330ci for £4k last week. :p

In fairness, it had had SO much preventative work done to it, it became justified. Had 3 people calling wanting viewings after just half a day of it being on PH!
 
Wow, that's insane. Must have had some serious work carried out? What did you do?

To be honest from my latest service and MoT the car wants for absolutely nothing but I'd be happy to carry out a few bits of preventative maintenance to help it along. The drop links and PAS pump and resevoir are new, mind ;)

Was that an auto or manual? Does one or the other command a premium over the other?
 
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Had 4 premium tyres on it, 4 genuine BMW brake discs, brand new OEM pads, Goodridge brake hoses, clutch changed, full Eibach Pro Street S coilover kit with corner weighting done, newly refurbed alloys, bi-xenon headlights, leather was in excellent condition, paint work in very good condition, FCAB/RTABS/ARB linkages/ARB bushes all done, carbon fibre Simota induction kit etc, recent service at BMW.

It had a lot going for it!
 
Thanks Gaygle. It's last service was an Inspection 2, although that was around 51,000 miles and it's on 67,000 now. He didn't give me a date on service so I'm not going to hold my breath. Going to view it on Monday so we'll see!
 
Thanks Gaygle. It's last service was an Inspection 2, although that was around 51,000 miles and it's on 67,000 now. He didn't give me a date on service so I'm not going to hold my breath. Going to view it on Monday so we'll see!

Get the SMG one instead.
 
Thanks Gaygle. It's last service was an Inspection 2, although that was around 51,000 miles and it's on 67,000 now. He didn't give me a date on service so I'm not going to hold my breath. Going to view it on Monday so we'll see!

I don't even see the point in looking, it's a comedy price, he's not going to slash £3k off it, why bother? The best buys are cars that have just had the Inspection 2 as that gives you up to 4 years before the next wallet destroying inspection service. This car will need another one in about 15k miles time and is likely due or overdue an oil service at the current mileage.

I can perhaps see the point in buying a pristine minter with impeccable history and a big service just done for silly money but a 70k mile E46 for £13.5k? Waste of everyones time, these are old cars, it isn't going to be any less of an old car just because you spend a billion quid on it, take advantage of the fact they've been out ages and buy one for thousands and thousands of pounds less leaving you with a bunch of spare money to replace bits and bobs and tidy it up.
 
So last week we decided to go Switzerland in search of snow and I figured the best way to do this would be to fly to Germany and rent a car with winter tyres and drive on down. Had an enjoyable time and figured you guys might appreciate my experiences of the car - a 320d auto.

I won't bore the rest of the forum with my tedious ramblings so I'll keep it in here for those who are interested in BMW.

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I've driven the F30 before - I've had a 320d a couple of times as a loan car for the odd day here and there but on this particular trip I got an opportunity to really get to know it as we covered about 1000km in total.

The car was well specified as all German cars are - they are not big on bling but they are very big on spec, consequently you will find the majority of BMW's in Germany are heavily optioned SE spec cars and not M Sport's. Seeing an M Sport is a genuinely rare sight. This particular car had Xenons, business nav, leather and of course everyones favourite ZF8HP gearbox though not in Sport Auto form.

So the interior then. I don't think it will come as a surprise to anyone but I am not a fan of the F30 interior and sadly this trip has done nothing to fix that really. It's not that there is anything inherently bad about it, it's just that there is nothing inherently good about it either. It is simply a larger version of the interior found in the 1 Series whereas the 3 Series of old tended to have a smaller version of the interior found in a 5 Series.

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As a result nothing inside the car really feels that premium or special. You do not feel like you are sitting in an expensive car. The interior does not wrap itself around you. There is black plastic everywhere - the centre console for example is almost entirely black plastic, the gearshift gaiter is black plastic, etc. The dashboard grain is a cheaper looking and feeling plastic than you'd find in a 5 Series - some of you might think 'Well duh, it's cheaper' but this never used to be the case, the dash material in an E46 is the same as that in an E39 and the dash material in an E90 is the same as that in an E60.

The plastic doesn't feel especially nasty - it's solid enough - but there is just loads of it and I'm not keen on the way the interior doesn't really 'flow' if that makes sense.

Oh, and why on earth has it got an old-school handbrake? Absolute nuisance, kept almost driving off with it engaged. Which also means that unlike the 5 Series the gearbox has no auto hold function. Irritating.

But it's ok - there are good bits. The electronics and infotainment is luckily shared across the entire BMW range so the fact this is a 3 Series hasn't stopped it being very good, IMHO nobody does infotainment and user interfaces like BMW does. The car has 'full black panel display' which is really the partial black panel display from the F10 rather than a genuine full black panel display but it's still very nice. The car had Business navigation so sadly no navigation instructions in the instrument panel.

It drove well - the handling was tidy, the ride was very compliant despite being on RFT's though the higher profile of the small wheels and winter tyres did help. Performance was everything you'd ever need - it was never fast but never slow. I took in quite a lot of Autobahn mileage on the trip and the car happily cruised at about 180kmh and got there quickly enough. Above about 180 and it started to feel very noisy and far less refined so it's not as happy at higher speeds as my 5 Series is, but then I guess thats fair enough. I didn't take it beyond 200kmh as the big sticker in the window warning me not to exceed 210kmh due to the winter tyres was forever in view :D

Now for the genuinely impressive bit - fuel economy. I am a big critic of diesel fuel economy. It is generally nothing like as good as people would have you believe. My 530d isn't bad, I can just about get it to 50mpg on a long and steady motorway run but a trip to Cologne and back at Christmas yeilded just 42mpg average despite being mostly at 70mph.

No such disappointment with the 320d. My overall average over 1000km was 52.4mpg. This included the Autobahns at high speed, mountain roads and driving through the centre of Zurich and Lucerne. From Lucerne to the German border near Basel, a distance of some 150km, the car averaged an astonishing 64mpg with the cruise set to the speed limit. From Freiburg to Stuttgart, all Autobahn and all driven how you'd want to on the Autobahn it was only just under 50mpg.

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Very, very impressive. I have driven many E90 320d and none of them ever came even slightly close to this. This is the first time I have been very impressed with the fuel economy of a diesel.

So there we go, a mini review of the 3 Series. I really want to like the 3 Series - on paper it's an excellent ownership proposition. Low cost warranty, low running costs, not particularly expensive for nearly new examples (Considerably cheaper used than 5 Series) and a great range of engines but I just can't gel with it. It just feels like a decent enough normal car. Which I guess it is.

Winter tyres...

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Despite the plethora of snow absolutely everywhere the Germans and the Swiss are irritatingly efficient at clearing it away therefore not once did any road I had to drive on actually have any snow on it. As a result the winter tyres were mostly a bit of a nuisance - the noise at lower speeds was particularly intrusive.

However we did take a few trips up some minor roads where invariably carpark access roads etc were covered in snow. Genuinely impressive - you could simply drive around up hills etc etc as if there wasn't any snow there. No traction issues at all.

So, very very useful when snow is on the ground. A nuisance when there isn't any. No wonder they don't catch on here, though I can't say the Goodyear Ultragrip 8's we have on the Mini are anything like as irritatingly noisy as the Bridgestone Blizzaks on this car.
 
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I have a feeling one of the front wheels may be buckled as it needed 75g to balance. They are oem MV2's.

Ahh bummer dude :/ If you do go ahead with a wheel refurb at Lepsons, they will straighten the wheel out for £12 + VAT at the same time (£45 + VAT if you just want it straightened). Either way it's a dam sight cheaper than a new wheel.


The M3 is back on the road!! :D Will do a proper write up in a few days once I'm used to the car and have taken some proper (non car park) photos.

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Found a little M235i to sit it next to, I expected to be a bit bigger than it but I dwarfed it!

So what was the total bill for my mishap?

New Style 359 Alloy: £585
2x Michelin Pilot Super Sports: £150 x2
Tyre fitting + balancing: £25
Suspension check and wheel alignment: £60
Undamaged suspension: £0
Recovery courtesy of BMW Emergency Assistance: £0
The huge dent in my pride and having to have people tell me "I told you so" all week?: £priceless.

Total: £970.

I won't be doing that again.
 
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Nice M3!

The rear of the 235 looks dated already.

Also, does the new M4 not come with rear LEDs as standard? One drove past me today and it undoubtedly had normal rear lights! A bit of strange move considering they became standard on 04+ E46 3series yet a 2014 60 odd thousand pound M4 doesn't deserve them as standard?!
 
Wow that 2 series looks horrendous from the back :eek:

That mishap price total is remarkably cheaper than I expected it would be! Bet you're glad about that and have learnt a valuable lesson Vox :p
 
Also, does the new M4 not come with rear LEDs as standard? One drove past me today and it undoubtedly had normal rear lights! A bit of strange move considering they became standard on 04+ E46 3series yet a 2014 60 odd thousand pound M4 doesn't deserve them as standard?!

BMW love to do this.

They first introduced CELIS LED rear lights in 2000 on the E39 5 Series. You'd have thought that was that and all new models released since would have them but no - what they seem to do is leave them off every sub 5 Series model and then add them at the facelift :rolleyes:
 
The funny thing is I was in such disbelief from seeing them I needed to share it with someone, turns out not many people care about this stuff, my colleague certainly looked confused at my reaction :p
 
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Nobody really cares which makes it all the more odd, I bet literally nobody has traded in for the facelift specifically because it has LED's on it so I've no idea what it achieves other than cheapening the look of the car.

If it caused many, many people to trade perfectly good cars in for the facelift model you'd kinda understand...
 
@ Voxination: Have to keep an eye out for your M3 at BW, looks lovely.

So first week with the Z4M and I am still loving it, noise is such an improvement over my old 3.0i one. Have not had much chance to take it out other then driving to work, and apart from two sunny mornings the weathers been terrible all week as well :(

I'll try and get some images up this weekend if we have any good weather, and I get a chance to clean it. Filthy already :(
 
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