Boiler kaputt, looking for advice

silversurfer said:
Is solar panels not yet feasible alternative, I read the price fell a lot
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Feasible alternative to what, central heating and running hot water? Probably not in the UK at least. Ever.

I have 2 solar banks and a solar heat exchanger on the house. In summer it prewarms the water so the boiler works less, in winter I imagine it only takes the chill off of it. I'd say it's never enough on its own.

The solar panels can produce maybe 5-6kWh on a summer's day but much less in winter, and of course no storage which would add inefficiencies.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
not unless you have 10-20 acres of free land and want to spend 50K on a solar set up.

however if you have that kind of land and cash lying about. chances are you aren't worrying about a 100 gas bill or fixing a boiler for 3k.
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Where do you come up with this rubbish? I am planning to have solar panels on one side of my roof that will eventually provide most of my hot water for me so my boiler will only be used on demand for hot water. The outlay is expensive but it eventually pays for itself.
 
panthro said:
Where do you come up with this rubbish? I am planning to have solar panels on one side of my roof that will eventually provide most of my hot water for me so my boiler will only be used on demand for hot water. The outlay is expensive but it eventually pays for itself.
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In winter? At night? Hot water or just warm?
 
panthro said:
Where do you come up with this rubbish? I am planning to have solar panels on one side of my roof that will eventually provide most of my hot water for me so my boiler will only be used on demand for hot water. The outlay is expensive but it eventually pays for itself.
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i seriously doubt it. so when you wake up in the morning to have a shower the solar will have already heated the water hot enough with 30 mins of daylight?

fyi i have solar panels btw. i didn't bother going with the hot water hooked up to it as it does literally nothing. it turns cold water barely lukewarm.
 
Missus and I were talking today, thinking about asking engineer to just cut the pipes next to the meter, move it outside and then route brand new gas pipe from outside, to the kitchen, and then put the new boiler in the kitchen, and we would be able to pull the old pipes out whenever we feel like while doing redecorating around the house later on. Would that be a feasible solution, do you think? Pretty sure we would need some water pipes to go from boiler to the bathroom, but surely that's something we could do ourselves without a certified engineer?

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talked some more, we realised routing a new pipe through the 1st floor and not routing any pipes upstairs allow us to get rid of the airing cupboard in the bathroom, is that even allowed? Also, would same engineer be able to route new electricity cable for boiler straight from the fusebox so we can avoid the bs that previous owners made?
 
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Sixense said:
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asking engineer to just cut the pipes next to the meter, move it outside and then route brand new gas pipe from outside
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Are you looking to move the meter?
I had to get the gas network to move mine, As far as I understand it you can get tour plumber to do any work after the meter but the meter and its feed are a network thing.
At least in Scotland anyway.
 
Gas meter reposition is down to a few things, a gas safe engineer with the right ticket on his card can do it but may need permission.

Moving it internally without having to shift the ECV and within reach of the anaconda is much less hassle than moving one from internal to external. Would be much easier just to T off the existing supply and then take that pipe outside and run it to the kitchen externally.
 
Our Ideal boiler failed 3 months ago. It was 10 years old and we called BG who came in, got it working and then condemned it. PCB had failed and it was leaking apparently. This is for a 3 bed, 3 toilet separate shower and bath. 13 rads in total.

BG quoted us 4K with a new one, this was apparently with a offer that was discounted by £800.

Ended up going with a company called Boxt. Had a Worcester Bosch fitted with smart thermostat for £2995 fixed price. Guys from Boxt we’re great, arrived at 8AM and left at 7PM. Boiler was fitted in the same location but they had to fabricate a wooden wall onto the plasterboard.

Also comes with a 10year warranty.
 
Telecaster said:
Moving it internally without having to shift the ECV and within reach of the anaconda is much less hassle than moving one from internal to external. Would be much easier just to T off the existing supply and then take that pipe outside and run it to the kitchen externally.
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Shift the what within reach of what? Running pipe externally is a no go, house is a terrace pretty much in the centre of a block.
 
The meter can be moved by a gas safe engineer with the MET1 ticket, but only within reach of the ECV (emergency control valve) - i.e. your main gas shut off valve. The flexible connector going to the meter allows some movement (but not much).

Anything beyond that means moving the ECV, which means you must use your local gas transporter to quote (and they are usually not cheap).
 
Ever since WB and Vaillant started using more and more plastics in their boilers the difference between them and lesser brands like Ideal and Baxi became less and less. Vokera and intergas are also worth a look. Viessman, are a decent brand abroad, but im not sure what they do in the UK in terms of wall hung boilers.

Id avoid the likes of Ferroli,Biasi and such, they are cheap but utterly rubbish.
 
Quick Q! (Sorry OP, hope you're sorted!)

Terraced townhouse, 4 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms (one tub, 2 showers), 11 Radiators. AFAIU a Combi Boiler wont work well as we have 3 bathrooms over 3 floors with power showers.
BG recommended and quoted me a Worcester Bosch Greenstar 24ri ErP, installed for £2784, discounted to £2084 (although ive missed the 14 day quote cutoff), 5 year Warranty
BOXT (thanks for that link!) has recommended the Worcester Bosch Greenstar 30ri Compact installed for £2150, 10 Year Warranty.

BG has already been round and looked at everything so wont be any surprises, but my gut says the BOXT is a better deal, more powerful boiler +5 years warranty for £70... but possible complications on the day?
 
you do not need a 30kw system boiler for 11 radiators and a tank that's overkill

also I don't rate the compact range not a fan of the new heat engine used in them
 
The_One said:
you do not need a 30kw system boiler for 11 radiators and a tank that's overkill

also I don't rate the compact range not a fan of the new heat engine used in them
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Ok great! I'm happy with the BG quote, just wanted to make sure i was getting bang for buck. TBH I dont think i'll be in the house for 5 years let alone 10 so it works out.

Thanks!
 
They've come to fit it and realised the WB Boiler is top flue and current is back flu. Offering a Vaillant instead for less building work moving outputs. Frustrating.
 
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