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Bottle Necking Issue

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FX-6100 3.3Ghz (3.6Ghz Turbo) Stock (Overclocking Noob)
MSI R9 270 OC Edition Crossfired
1Tb Seagate Hybrid Drive (8GB SSD) + 1TB 72,000RPM Seagate Hard Drive
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 (Overkill)
Dual 22" LCD Monitors

Any ideas or help until ive saved up for a new processor some games I have to disable the crossfire as it causes Lag/Fps drop like Farcry3 but runs fine on 1 card no problems,

Dirt3 is fine Max Settings
Battlefield 4 seems the Frames aren't as high as should be with Mantle/DirectX

Will try other games and will share the results
 
i know that farcry3 optimisation suck,
i know that battlefield4 Mantle, has some commande that you can change either lose some fps to have better frametime, or let the fps free but have not as good frametime
you are going to have to OC the cpu anyway, 270 crossfire should be good enough to have all games over 60fps, so games on DX11 should be smooth with frame pacing, not so much for DX9
 
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Right thanks for the quick replies will try what Wilko Dog said about BF4

and i will see if any overclocking tips in the CPU section for the FX-6100
 
that command didn't do anything by the way

right so i checked out my CPU usage while playing seems MSI afterburner i use to control the GPU fans was using about 10-25% so ended that so battlefield had more processing power and it runs a lot better , but i haven't got a lot of head room so now and then it hits the 90%

Overclock time ?
 
ignore what i said when its under load it runs at 4Ghz fine, so over all closing MSI Afterburner and OC to just 4ghz i am get 13-20 Fps better in BF4

as its only air cooled do you think i should try overclocking higher
 
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deleted it as don't know what it is and i don't use it RTSS.exe that is

Any overclocking tips im at 4Ghz with no voltage changes with my FX-6100 (Stock 3.3GHz)
I don't know how to properly overclock so i change the CPB ratio till it was unstable
 
FX-6100 3.3Ghz (3.6Ghz Turbo) Stock (Overclocking Noob)
MSI R9 270 OC Edition Crossfired
1Tb Seagate Hybrid Drive (8GB SSD) + 1TB 72,000RPM Seagate Hard Drive
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 (Overkill)
Dual 22" LCD Monitors

Any ideas or help until ive saved up for a new processor some games I have to disable the crossfire as it causes Lag/Fps drop like Farcry3 but runs fine on 1 card no problems,

Dirt3 is fine Max Settings
Battlefield 4 seems the Frames aren't as high as should be with Mantle/DirectX

Will try other games and will share the results

What FPS do you get in Mantle with BF4?

Re: pic, Shanghai its the most demanding map, i now run an FX-8350 @ 4.6Ghz and the performance is quite a bit higher, it never drops much below 90.

Depending on what FPS you get overclocking might make it better, if its really low then i don't know.

 
On test range between 40-70 but before the OC it was 25-50 with Mantle
and my CPU usage is like 90%
 
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okaii i think i have sorted it , i turned my 2nd monitor off that reduced the stuttering slightly

on mantle i would look down the sniper sight even though FPS is at 60-105 it would stutter then 15 minutes later while testing mantle i get a mantle Error (will try an catch a picture next time)


Ran DirectX with 2nd monitor off and Crossfire set to CFR Friendly
but now and then it drops to 30fps for some reason but most of the time it is between 58-115Fps

 
right overclock time , right so im at 4gz just by changing CPB now how do i go higher without death lol

Depends on your temperatures. DL this and run the stress test for about 30 minutes.

Your looking for no more than 65c on Package and CPU







some BIOS settings that might help




 
Some advice.

1. Do not manually volt your ram on AM3. Especially with an Asus board, they don't like it. Both my CHVFZ and M5A97 R2.0 absolutely hate it when you touch ram voltage. Both are completely unstable and unable to even maintain stock clocks.

2. Be very careful about which cooler you decide to use. Remember; the rule here is that what usually works on Intel doesn't work the same way on AMD. There are certain coolers out there that are supposedly brilliant, yet, when put on an AM3 they just crumble. This is because the AM3 die is larger than the Intel and the cores are put into the far corners. That Zalman wouldn't be much use.

3. Whenever possible, go water. That means H80-H100 if you can pick one up cheap, or, at the very worst a second hand H70. AM3 chips really need water if you want to chase big clocks. I suggest one of the three I listed if you want to chase 4.4ghz+. I am running a Scythe Ninja on my 4.4ghz 8320 (board VRM limited) and it just about holds the temps.

4. Ignore the max temps of the chip. Some people say 63c, others say 72c, I say - basically the chip will let you know itself when it is too hot (it'll simply lock up your PC). You can't possibly damage it because it has a heat throttle/shutdown. It's the same with Intel CPUs, GPUs, anything else. I was told never to go over 63c with my 8320, well I disagree, because I can hold a 5ghz overclock with a max package temp of 73c in Asus Realbench R2.0.

5. Try not to use synthetics to test an AMD. Whilst it may work well on Intel I can run Prime 95 for over an hour with no crashes on my 8320 @ 5.2ghz, yet, run Asus Realbench and as soon as I hit the multi tasking test I bomb. Realbench is great because it uses actual real life applications with which to stress your PC (Handbrake, GIMP, hi res video, etc).

I would aim for 4.4ghz. Anything over that does provide yields, but they get lower and lower as the chip begins to near 5ghz. In the end I decided on an all round clock of 4.9ghz, which hits 71c in Prime 95 and LinX* and remains stable through the Asus Realbench multi tasking tests :)


* I really don't advise using Prime, but, if used in moderation (IE five minute bursts) it's a good indicator of what sort of temps your CPU will allow you to hit. That's all I use it for though, as like I said it does not simulate real world conditions like Asus Realbench does :)

Good luck !
 
Some advice.

1. Do not manually volt your ram on AM3. Especially with an Asus board, they don't like it. Both my CHVFZ and M5A97 R2.0 absolutely hate it when you touch ram voltage. Both are completely unstable and unable to even maintain stock clocks.

Could this be why my system freezes if i try to push the overclock past 4.6Ghz?
no matter what i do, its almost as if 4.6 is a set number it will not pass, i'm beginning to think its the PSU, 3 year old XFX 750 Watt. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/XFX-PRO-750-W-Power-Supply-Review/1182

Or the Motherboard its self cutting power to the CPU / Memory?
 
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