Brazilian Grand Prix 2012, São Paulo - Race 20/20

The drivers also have the flags displayed in cockpit on the dash, at the first yellows Seb had a yellow light on his dash to indicate the yellows, this went out when they went past the green light, up the hill under yellows his dash showed no yellow flag zone, but no idea why someone is saying they were orange LOL.
 
Skeeter said:
Regardless of colour, its not flashing.
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I can't find anything about flashing/solid lights. And given that actual F1 drivers (i.e. McNish) is unable to clarify what that light meant other than yellow flag, then I don't see how we can put this to bed so easily really? As for an orange light?? What?
 
FrankJH said:
you are right Lewis challanges stupidly like today when he didnt NEED to challange, JB brings the car home
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Yes, except, you're still talking rubbish, he didn't need to challenge, what challenge, what on earth are you talking about? He was on the outside of the corner and going slowly behind a backmarker, he was slow to avoid going into the back of him.... where could he go exactly?

Where was he "challenging", did he cut across Hulkenberg, no, did he brake late to keep his place, no, he let Hulk go up the inside, exactly opposite to what you're saying, because he knows he can get him back, again, like he'd already done. He wasn't challenging AT ALL, he was taking the wide safe line and a car slid across and took him out, short of stopping on track and letting Hulk get to the next corner before continuing... he was doing what every other driver did.

He could have tried to block Hulk and dived up the inside of the back marker, he took the safe route through the corner, and still got done.

JB brings the car home, yeah, slow and steady works, sometimes, but where was he in the title fight? No where at all, he wasn't remotely close at any stage despite doing the best he could do. Hamilton had luck not been against him would have won the title, Button would never have done, wouldn't have gotten close.
 
Flibster said:
Flashing is an indicator of waved
Just on is a stationary yellow.

So they're both yellow flags - just different levels of yellow.

So they were yellow.
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I don't think I've ever seen a solid yellow light with yellow flags?

But if it was yellow, what was it for? There were no incidents on that part of the track until Hulk stuck it in the wall on the last lap?

Not to mention that if it was yellow it seems to have been missed not just by the FIA but by Ferrari too!
 
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Flibster said:
Flashing is an indicator of waved
Just on is a stationary yellow.

So they're both yellow flags - just different levels of yellow.

So they were yellow.
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I have a feeling a solid light might be orange but a flashing one is yellow. Maybe?

But maybe the whole thing is negated by the fact that Kobayashi pitted. So perhaps it wasn't Vettel that passed Kobayashi, but it was Koba backing off to get to the left side of the track to get in to the pits. At that moment, Vettel can't keep slowing down to stop overtaking him. He is forced to go by.
 
Ignoring the colour of the light (prob just my eyes), there's no reason for why there would be a yellow there at that time, and no interest being shown by Ferrari, so I can't see how he could have overtaken under yellows. Ferrari aren't going to just let it go.
 
What is all this talk of orange? No such flag exists?

Chequered flag
Indicates to drivers that the session has ended. During practice and qualifying sessions it is waved at the allotted time, during the race it is shown first to the winner and then to every car that crosses the line behind him.

Yellow flag
Indicates danger, such as a stranded car, ahead. A single waved yellow flag warns drivers to slow down, while two waved yellow flags at the same post means that drivers must slow down and be prepared to stop if necessary. Overtaking is prohibited.

Green flag
All clear. The driver has passed the potential danger point and prohibitions imposed by yellow flags have been lifted.

Red flag
The session has been stopped, usually due to an accident or poor track conditions.

Blue flag
Warns a driver that he is about to be lapped and to let the faster car overtake. Pass three blue flags without complying and the driver risks being penalised. Blue lights are also displayed at the end of the pit lane when the pit exit is open and a car on track is approaching.

Yellow and red striped flag
Warns drivers of a slippery track surface, usually due to oil or water.

Black with orange circle flag
Accompanied by a car number, it warns a driver that he has a mechanical problem and must return to his pit.

Half black, half white flag
Accompanied by a car number, it warns of unsporting behaviour. May be followed by a black flag if the driver does not heed the warning.

Black flag
Accompanied by a car number, it directs a driver to return to his pit and is most often used to signal to the driver that he has been excluded from the race.

White flag
Warns of a slow moving vehicle on track.
 
Interview just then on BBC F1 forum with Massa was a bit of an eye opener... suggested that he was asked to do things that he didn't agree with. Kept mentioning "honest", "professional", being asked to go slow, etc....
 
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