Bread Maker or Stand Mixer?

[ttaskmaster]

more like £35, if you research what the pros use and how the spirals improve the bread, then like a flexi-beater they are a must have, if they fit on your kenwood/KitchenAid.
If I update the stand mixer at some point I'll get one, and bake bread on the tail end of other oven use,

youv'e tried a panasonic bread make I guess , as said they are not press and forget, and I'll inspect the hydration after the initial needing, like slashing the loaf just before it bakes to help bloom

It's more the wife's thing, but from memory we did have a Panasonic, and a Zorushi one, and a couple others that I can't recall. Breville, possibly. They were all supposed to have been the best at the time, but results weren't ever especially great, no matter what we did. Way I see it, if *I* can make a better loaf than the machine, some designer really needs to be fired!!

Spirals were about £15 for the Kenwood one when I looked yesterday. I'd expect KitchenAid to be pricier, though.